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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]I don’t claim there is incontrovertible proof - merely that empirical evidence supports idea that some part of our human self survives physical death. [/quote]

How can you type this and expect to be taken seriously?  It is 100% false.[/quote]

So you think thousands of people who have reported similar experiences are all lying? We are talking about 10 - 20 percent of cardiac arrest survivors for starters … many other causes of NDEs …[/quote]

No, your reasoning is wrong. The experiences these people report are true. Your false logic that its proof of a metaphysical is false.

Anyone who has experienced depletion of oxygen to the brain reports similar results, including pilots blacking out from pulling too many Gs. It's not just NDEs. [/quote]

[b]There is no scientific consensus on the neurobiology underlying widespread NDE experiences. [/b]

Estimates of NDE prevalence 
5–10% of the general population
10–20% of people who have come close to death
17% of critically ill patients
18–23% of cardiac arrest survivors
43–48% of adults who have been affected by life-threatening illnesses
85% of children who have been affected by life-threatening illnesses

A handful of researchers, mostly emergency room doctors, began collecting qualitative data about NDEs after the 1975 publication of psychiatrist and physician Raymond A. Moody’s book Life after Life, which detailed patients’ accounts of near-death experiences.

Roland Griffiths, a psychiatrist at Johns Hopkins University who pioneered studies of psilocybin and who died last October, reported similar findings with his colleagues in 2022. The authors compared 3,192 people who had undergone an NDE, a psychedelic drug trip or a nondrug-induced mystical experience. The team found “remarkably similar” long-term outcomes across subjects in all three groups, including a reduced fear of death and lasting positive effects of insights they had gained.

In another study, published in 2024 in the journal Neuroscience of Consciousness, Martial, Timmermann and their colleagues interviewed 31 people who had experienced an NDE and had also tried a psychedelic drug—LSD, psilocybin, ayahuasca, DMT or mescaline—to see what they had to say about the similarities and differences between the events. Participants reported stronger sensory effects during their NDE, including the sensation of being disembodied, but stronger visual imagery during their drug trip. They reported feelings of spirituality, connectedness and deeper meaning across both.

In comparisons of these mystical experiences, “the common ground that’s striking to me is in things like a profound, deep sense of love—that all is love and that consciousness is love,” says Bossis, who studies the effects of psilocybin in people with terminal cancer, focusing on relieving end-of-life distress, enhancing spirituality, and providing a greater sense of meaning and fulfillment in life. “There’s also a sense of transcending time as we know it and a greater acceptance of the mystery of life and death.”[/quote]

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