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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Unless a lot of parents really make a stink about it, then nothing will happen.  No doubt the teacher has tried repeatedly to get admin to take action, and they have refused.  It's all too common.[/quote]

Then teachers quit and turnover increases. Why would admin refuse to take action? [/quote]

Because they have bosses, who have bosses, who have bosses...and in the mix are school boards and taxpayers and politicians. And as you get further and further out you get a very low percentage of people who actually spend time in schools.

Americans have gotten to a place where it's easier to blame teachers and principals than it is to blame caregivers and families. [/quote]

It always boils down to someone in this hierarchy chain has a sped kid. And many sped parents are the most selfish and entitled people who expect other people to care about their kids first. And excuse their kid's poor behaviors. And threaten to sue. And tell everyone else to go to private school. Other parents are not a-holes. Almost every normal parent has tried to be sympathetic but have reached their tolerance threshold after 100 or 1000 incidents.

And if you think your crazy kid is anonymous, parents who don't even know each other, meet at school functions, and inevitably talk about who the crazy kids are to let each other know who their kids should avoid like the plague. Even many teachers will confirm in private who the crazy kids are without naming them directly. Contrary to crazy parents' belief, public school is not a psych ward or rehab center, and people are sick of your kids and their craziness. [/quote]

I just posted and this is true. Everyone knows and criticizes and over time, ostracizes out of a sense of powerlessness because even formal complaints don’t kick out a kid. Same excellent public, best in the area example: a boy routinely racially and sexually harassed a girl. The racial slurs trigger necessary district-level reporting and note to the superintendent and winds up as a data point somewhere with the NYC schools chancellor. Principal follows all the way up, meetings. Parents of the harasser are a gay couple, cry, get the boy into therapy, who determines he’s actually in need of an IEP because he is possibly on the spectrum. The attacked girl is also on the spectrum and in fact had her diagnosis years before and does not harass or attack anyone. She is also child to a gay couple. But his attacks plus modern family structure and d/x of convenience ultimately somehow trumped her modern family, preexisting dx, her status as the child who was just minding her own business.

Same sht different day. It comes down to parenting - not because parents can wave a wand, but because they can either feel compelled to attempt to seek solutions that stop their kid destroying other kids or not. They as a class choose not. I had an aunt with intellectual disabilities who, like me, was educated to the best of her ability in MCPS. It’s a culture shift where more is offloaded from families to teachers and it’s not a workable, collective solution.[/quote]

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