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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm reading this book right now When McKinsey Comes to Town.  McKinsey's consultants, largely made up on uber elitists from ivy league schools who live on the coasts, have for years been the architects of wealth inequality.  McKinsey consultants were the ones who came up with idea that CEOs needed to make 300x the average worker. It was McKinsey consultants who constantly pushed the idea of off shoring and downsizing that have gutted manufacturing and many middle class jobs. McKinsey consultants are also the ones who also worked for the FDA while simultaneously consulting for Purdue to supercharge sales of opioids.  And who paid the price and had their families and lives ruined? All of the poor in those areas the disgusting elitists call flyover country. In another example, McKisney also consulted for the Chinese CCP on artificial island building in the South China Sea while working for the US department of defense.  And who'll be sent into the meat grinder when there's a conflict in the SCS?  All of the poor people and their kids. There are just so many examples in the book - it's so disturbing.

And people wonder why huge swaths of America hate the liberal costal elitists. I mean just look how many McKinsey almuni infect our govt like virus (Pete Buttgeig, Lael Brainard,  etc.).  Trump has appeal because he isn't from the same swamp producing and employing the likes of McKinsey consultsnts that have been ruining the country for the last 50 years and creating massive wealth inequality.  It's largely the elite college educated, urban Democrats who choose to go work for companies like McKinsey, Wall St. etc. that have been gutting their jobs and destroying the livelihood of the middle class. [/quote]

Are you sure there are not a good share of Republicans there? My bleeding heart liberal friends joined the peace corps or Teach For America . They took public defender jobs or environmental justice positions. Nothing like the corporate enablers you are describing. [/quote]

For you and the other PP scoffing at this: do you actually live in a wealthy neighborhood of NYC, SF or the DMV? Do you know a lot of college kids or failing that, the deans or profs at the kinds of schools that produce consultants? Because no, most of the kids hired by the largest consulting cos are not Republicans — not that it matters much.

Everything in the original post is true; for people like me in hardcore blue enclaves who are what Democrats used to be, anti-war and anti-military spending, and for protection of labor, our values are not truly represented in the upper echelons of the party any more. And that does not mean I’m voting for trump nor that I want him to win on any level.[/quote]

We are still anti-war. Which is why we support diplomacy and things like providing resources to allies so they fight for democracy. Why is this hard to understand?[/quote]

Wow, thank you so much for the nuances you’ve provided! Shucks, do I feel foolish. I thought that refusing to condition unapproved/Congress-bypassed ceaseless provision of munitions and money to Israel, was in fact not going to slow down the war but you’ve certainly got me.

Some of you are determined to try and a-hole yourselves out of conversation and ultimately out of voters. Not everyone here is a shill, and some of us have had genuine discontent with the party we grew up in and grew up voting for. Honestly, for me it’s tragic at this point. I am appalled by what’s happened in Gaza, I am tired of being sneered at for this. I have the privilege of sending DC to an excellent school, and I also am really troubled by the fact that a poorly funded public was forced to shutter for a day to create shelter for migrants (NYC) while FULLY acknowledging that Abbott and DeSantis shoulder this along with Biden and mayor Adams.

Not everyone is ultimately going to be convinced that not being Trump is enough, and for some, the war and border issues are going to be dissuasive. I think Biden will win, but he needs at this point to run a great campaign in the swing states. [/quote]

because the Trump Administration adhered to the rule of law and will show sooooo much more compassion to the Palestians than Biden?[/quote]

Trump and Netyanyahu routinely blew each others horns.  Anyone who thinks a Trump win would be a blow to Netanyahu is utterly delusional - apart from the fact that Trump would give a blind eye to Russia continuing to fund, train, and arm Hamas terrorists, which is of zero benefit to the Palestinian people.  It would only lead to more bloodshed and innocent Palestinian lives lost in the crossfire.  [/quote]

NO ONE HAS SAID WHAT YOU TWO ARE ASSERTING. However:[b] Biden has done NOTHING to hamper Israel,[/b] Netanyahu, nor arms provision. And this might really cost him with younger voters in swing states. He needs to have good answers in Michigan in particular, where I don’t see young Muslim students or professionals necessarily working to GOTV this time. [/quote]

He has done more to aid the Palestinians and get at least one cease fire, that Hamas broke. I give him credit for that and the aid he has been trying to send to Gaza. It is more than the GOP would have done.[/quote]

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