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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Everyone gets knocked down a tier. When UW 4.0/35+ACTgreat ACTs are getting denied and deferred EA/ED they start applying to more schools T30-65.

Now kids that normally would get in those schools are getting knocked down a tier and so and so on.

You can’t blame the high stats kids for getting shut out of top schools and reaching down.  Don’t hate the player, hate the game.[/quote]

If you curate a good list of reaches, targets and true safeties/likelies, then you do not need to apply to 20+ schools.  Just because you have high stats does not mean you should apply to 7-10 T25 schools.  Search to find the 3-5 that are an excellent fit, then find 3-5 targets and another 3-5 safeties.  That's 9-15 schools at most.  Then show demonstrated interest at all of them, but especially your targets and safeties.  If you do it correctly, you should get into at least 50% of your targets and 75-100% of your safeties.

My own 1500/3.99UW/9APs/Good EC but not stupendous had it go this way:

ED1 T10, deferred and ultimately rejected (acceptance rate less than 7%)
T30--WL (single digit acceptance rates)
3 T30-50 Accepted 
1 T60 Accepted, but go abroad for first year (single digit acceptance rates)
1 T70 Accepted with excellent merit (30% of total costs/year)---Top Safety
Accepted at the other 3 safeties as well

So as my kid says, they were only rejected from 1 school outright.  
They are at one of the T30-50 schools, of course the one without any merit, but the one I knew was probably the best fit for my kid from the moment they set foot on campus.  Each visit they just lit up and you could see the excitement.  So this was actually a better place then their 3 reaches.
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Your advice is outdated. Things are diff this year.

Glad it worked out IN THE PAST[/quote]

This was for fall 2023--not really "outdated"   My kid got into the schools we expected and was rejected/WL/study abroad 1st year at exactly the schools we figured that might happen. But because we had a great list, they had 7+ great schools to choose from. 5 in the 30-70 range.  Most with good merit.  And this was for CS/Engineering (With out an EC list focused on that---they had an art focused EC list).

Majority claiming "my kid got rejected from 15 schools" it's because those were all mostly reaches.  Applying to all T25 schools, where acceptance rates are less than 10-20%, does not increase your odds any.  Just like buying 2 vs 1 powerball lottery ticket does not significantly increase your odds of winning.

Fact is if you curate a good list, find schools that your kid actually wants to attend, and make sure there are plenty of targets and safeties you will be fine.  
Targets mean acceptance rates from 25-50%, your kid at/+ 50-75 percentiles. 
Safeties mean acceptance rates above 50-60% and your kid at/above 75-80%.

And then you have to show your love for the school---make them think your kid actually wants to attend.  And yes, many in the 30-60 range know kids just send in applications just because they are worried about being shut out from their T25 schools.  So it's your job to convince them you love their school.

But 2023 Fall admissions is not that much different than this year.  And if you keep sending in 20+ applications, the process will only drive down admission rates everywhere.  [/quote]

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