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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]NP. Everyone is talking past each other. OP’s points are valid and valuable, and an important reminder — perhaps *especially* to those of us (waves hand) with neurodivergent kids.

It’s too bad that OP layered on top of these meaningful insights subjective judgments and broad generalizations, like all-caps “LAZINESS” and statements like “these kids are clearly being raised without consequences.” It’s these things, not the underlying points, that invited people to say “actually, it can be more complicated than mere parental neglect and child laziness.”

The skills are essential. And also, it can be more complicated. Both things are true. What would be most useful would be tips for helping kids get there — especially from parents whose kids took longer than peers to gain the skills. [/quote]

Agree - Have neuro divergent DC and find the list helpful.

I did not even take issue with the tone as I get frustrated myself trying to repeatedly explain why basic life and communication skills are important. As you woukd know, the frontal cortex of young people with ADHD are even more immature than the average teenager. Common sense is not their forte. It helps to be able to offer similar advice from the college professors’ perspective.

The real world will be far less forgiving with failures to be on time, prepare for tests/ assignments/ work in advance, maintain hygiene, clean up after self, and be respectful of time and authority, than parents are.

Becoming a responsible independent adult is a long slow process for sure - but paying attention to these little often overlooked details should help.

Thanks OP![/quote]

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