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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]20:27's Greatest Hits:

- Linking to data from 2007, pre-recession, and claiming it's relevant to 2012
- The 2007 data above makes apples-to-oranges comparison of MCPS teachers to professors and other educators nationwide
- Banging the drum for an MCPS Parents Union when she's not an MCPS parent
- Loses her cool so, so easily. Like when she was outed as a private school parent a few pages ago and made the regrettable "dog" comment.
- Accuses MCPS of "hiding" FY2012 data that couldn't possibly exist until FY2012 ends

And that's just the last few pages. I'm sure there's more. I can't take credit for all of these, although I'm proud of the FY2012 bit.[/quote]

My mistake.  I said 2011 and 2012, when I should have said 2010 and 2011.  The point is still valid, so I think you are overdoing it a bit.  If you read the old post, the turnover data that was presented went up to 2009.  Someone said the pay freezes stopped in 2010.  MCPS must have turnover data for 2010 and 2011.  Given an 8 yr trend of 5-8% turnover up to 2009, it is up to MCPS/school board/you to prove that something has changed.  Now it could be that you have the opinion is that there is no uptick in turnover now, but we need to act in order to prevent a possible uptick.  That is valid, but it is a much weaker case than saying teachers are leaving because of the pay freeze.   Given the poor economy, I would wait until I see some uptick in turnover and some decline in teacher job applications before making this case.  So what is your opinion, do you or MCPS have data to show that turnover is moving up to 20%, 30% or more from 4.7% in 2009 or are you just anticipating that this to happen?  If teachers do leave, where will they go?   If they go to other professions, are they leaving because of the pay or because of other factors?

As for all the name calling, that is not me.  Your assumptions about who is posting are just not true (for example, my kids are not in private school, they are in MCPS).  I just ignore these name-calling posts.   If you want to bash me, then I probably won't hit back.  If you want to discuss, I will.   I am betting that you will find some way to divert the argument away from my question about turnover in 2010 and 2011, but I hope you will prove me wrong.  [/quote]

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