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[quote=Anonymous][quote=RantingSoccerDad][quote=Anonymous][quote=RantingSoccerDad]

I was AR in a game recently in which I wished I had earplugs because the McLean coach was constantly yelling. About 80% negative, 18% joystick coaching, 2% positive.

I could actually see a creative player getting more timid over the course of the game. It was terrible.

(BTW -- I'm ending my part in the hijacking over Spurs. I've made my point and sufficiently refuted the notion that they're somehow not "elite." No need to continue the conversation while someone tries to excuse a misstatement by wildly moving the goalposts. Go Liverpool.)[/quote]

I was a PP but did not move the goalposts to focus on trophies.  Your analysis showed their recent history before this season still placed them outside the top four, which I would consider outside the elite of the EPL.  You also began this by citing their place atop the standings nine matches into the season as your evidence they are elite.  So let's not get carried away with those who move the goalposts, when you shifted your evidentiary basis from the first nine games of this year to the last eleven years of finishes, which has them remaining outside the top four.  [/quote]

11 years, head-to-head against other teams: Fifth place, ahead of Liverpool
 
11 years, average finish: Tied for fourth, again ahead of Liverpool (Bear in mind -- I love Liverpool.)

5 years, head-to-head: Third place, ahead of Manchester United and Liverpool

5 years, average finish: Second place

I only mentioned the first nine games of this season for the irony. But someone's so determined to prove me "wrong." [/quote]

so what you're saying is that it's better to rise and fall and actually win something than to be Tottenham? [/quote]

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