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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I went to an Ivy but was accepted to both Duke and UVA.

Duke offers more of an Ivy-like experience, but think Dartmouth-like behavior in faux-Princeton buildings with some Penn-like professional schools.  I’m not sure the arrogant frat-boy culture at Duke is unique, but it is more obvious because the frats are right in the center of West Campus (or at least they used to be), not on the fringe as at many schools.

UVA has certain elements of a private-school culture, due to its history and location, but once you get outside the main grounds it’s basically like any other state university, which means most live off-campus and have to take ownership of their education because they aren’t going to be coddled like they would be at some pricey SLAC.[/quote]

This. OP raised a wrong question.

[b]Yes Duke is only marginally better in terms of reputation.[/b] And yes UVa is definetely cheaper. But why is UVa so much cheaper?  Obviosly that’s because it’s a state school. So how come so many parents send their kids to pricey private colleges when they can send kids to cheaper public institutes?  That’s because there are other intangibles that they can obtain only at private schools like better student care, connections with wealthy people, etc.

So the question should be whether the OP should pay the premium for those intangibles (plus marginally better reputation) at Duke. [/quote]

Duke is more than marginally better than UVA in reputation.  I don't disagree with the rest of your cost/benefit analysis.  But I do disagree with "marginally".[/quote]

[b]Last year's US News reputation rankings -- not overall rankings, just reputation -- had Duke tied for 12th and UVA tied for 21st.  There was a 3 way tied for 14th and a 4 way tie for 17th, then you're at 21.  So the difference between 12 and 21 is actually pretty marginal.

UVA was tied with Vanderbilt, was ahead of Rice, Notre Dame, Wash U and Georgetown, and just behind Dartmouth and Carnegie Mellon.  [/quote][/b]

But you are comparing apples to oranges.  One can't compare a public flagship with a private.  They serve different purposes.  If you return to USN&WR and look in the appropriate category, that of rankings of Public universities where UVA ranks no 4 in the nation.  https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public[/quote]

Man, it is awfully frustrating dealing with idiots.  Re-read what I said.  The reputation rankings that I gave ARE from the US News rankings.  One of the components of the US News rankings is the reputation survey.  UVA's ranking in the survey is 21; Duke's is 12.  My point is that the two schools' academic [b]reputations[/b] are actually much closer than their overall US News rankings may suggest.   [/quote]

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