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You are making a terrible generalization about thousands of children that most AAP kids are test taking drones lacking happiness or the skills to make it in the real world.[/quote]

+1 This gross generalization does not at all agree with my impressions of both what the selection committee looked for, and what I see in the kids in my child's AAP cohort.

The work samples we submitted, for example, which the AART agreed were a good support, aimed to evidence creativity, curiosity, and sustained effort in areas of interest, even if some of those weren't strictly academic. What I see from the kids in AAP is that in addition to being smart, they also happen to be socially savvy, loud, ask a lot of questions, don't wait to hear the answer sometimes, want to explain to you why they think the way they think, and in many cases talk and think so far outside the box you kinda wish there was a box nearby. The vast majority of them are anything but robots.[/quote]

+10000

AAP Parents are not pushing their kids to being drone test takers. The tests are ALREADY easy for these kids. The kids are evaluated at school for their behavior all the time based on their behavior, their artistry, their willingness to learn and apply that knowledge. If you ever looked at a GBRS, the metrics are not just the test-- it's behavior. Which can't be prepped for.

In this area, the pressure on parents to raise "perfect" kids is blinding. Your kid didn't get into AAP because your kid is not gifted. That doesn't mean you have failed or you are justified in making awful assumptions. Your kids are special and loved and smart because you love them. But when you feel justified to hate AAP parents and their kids, you've shown all of the AAP parents the real reasons your kids didn't make it.

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Hurllllll!!!!

Just look at your post.  Your are assuming that somehow these "tests" magically and precisely measure intelligence, and second grade teachers observing behavior are qualified to precisely evaluate students, with no parental pressure, knowledge of LD, excessive shyness, etc.  You boldly claim if you are not selected for AAP you are not gifted.  But wait...that's OK...you can still love your kid and he is still special!![/quote]

My intent was to point out that the tendency of people to hate AAP kids and parents is indicative of an environment of competitive parenting. Certainly there are GE kids that show gifted behavior or should be given extra attention for LD. But to be so hateful, bigoted and bitter towards AAP families because your kids didn't make it is an example of why your kids didn't make it. You don't like the result so you rant about others in an anonymous forum. How brave. How smart. How gifted!

The AAP process is not a magical ball in seeing your kids future. But it's pretty awesome compared to what they do in the rest of the world. In China, the testing done there is fixed- there is no way to appeal the process at all. Kids cram for 16 hour days to pass a test that determines the rest of their lives. It's horrible.  Here- your kid has a chance to advance in their own time and their own pace, whether it is in third grade or beyond. The AAP process is also multidimensional and multidisciplinary- meaning it's not just how the kids do on tests but how they behave- which if you ever looked at a GBRS evaluation you would see that some of it has to deal with shyness and LD for 2E. And you can appeal with further testing out of your own pocket. So there's room to truly analyze your kids for giftedness. But if your kids still don't get in it doesn't mean that your kid doesn't have other strengths or gifts or won't come into their own later, it just means that they don't get into a program that is matriced out for a certain group of academics ad gifted behavior at that time.  Nor does it mean that AAP kids are losers.

But hey- let's just insult all of the teachers and admin because your kid didn't make it in and then blame all the other parents and their kids for "prepping" and then on top of that blame your kids LD and shyness for their GE. That sounds like logical, productive reasoning there. [/quote]

whoo you are so full of yourself, open your eyes and look around. It is just AAP where  kids learn a grade ahead of maths and little deeper writing/social/science , which is easily done by 85% of kids in this area because parents are also so learned and high income and pretty aware of all actvities. tests happening in school. Lot of them do volunteering and pretty involved in kids academics. Like you  :lol: [/quote]

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