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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I know heat stroke comes on fast. I still think this entire hike makes no sense. It was already close to 90 degrees when they set out, and before 11 was forecasted to hit 103.

If they were seen driving towards the trail head at 7:45 it means they started their walk around 8. By 9 it was very hot, but not heat stroke hot yet. The baby, even with shade, would have been showing signs of struggling in the heat-either being very fussy or lethargic. How far could they have gone and how bad could things really be that one of the parents couldn’t get out by then? Again, I’m saying prior to heat stroke or exhaustion setting in. The heat would have been apparent, they could have just turned around 20-30 minutes in. Also, I had those fancy hiking carries and 1 year olds do not generally like them-they want to be walking and moving around unless they are asleep.

I live in the desert and yes it’s cool in the mornings, but that means 5/6 AM. By 9 AM, nobody goes outside on these kinds of days.

They weren’t tourists. They knew this area. On the WS thread, they said that the dad had been on this trail at least once before and had owned property in the area for years.

It just does not make sense.[/quote]

I think they thought they could it (and the adults might have indeed been able to) but foolishly didn’t realize that it is a giant NO for a dog or a baby. I also live in the desert and I guarantee when I go to pick my kids up for school in an hour I will drive by quite a few walkers and runners (as much as it surprises me). current temp 100. I see plenty of adults walking, running, golfing or playing tennis in the midday heat. Camps and sports run all summer here for school aged kids and teens. My kids do them (with lots of water and breaks) and are totally unfazed. Now obviously this isn’t at all similar to hiking in a remote area but with plenty of water, I’m surprised by how well healthy people function in the heat. (Not me!).

But for dogs and infants (or the elderly)? NO. My school aged kids can handle it, but my dog absolutely not. An infant absolutely not.

I think that is what did them in. They stupidly didn’t realize that a dog and a baby have different needs in the heat.

And I’m not advocating hiking in the heat (stupid for anyone) but there are a lot of people who exercise quite intensely in the heat. But they don’t bring their dog, and sure as heck don’t bring an infant.

They were overconfident, thought they could do it, and didn’t consider the baby or the dog. [/quote]

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