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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I know heat stroke comes on fast. I still think this entire hike makes no sense. It was already close to 90 degrees when they set out, and before 11 was forecasted to hit 103.

If they were seen driving towards the trail head at 7:45 it means they started their walk around 8. By 9 it was very hot, but not heat stroke hot yet. The baby, even with shade, would have been showing signs of struggling in the heat-either being very fussy or lethargic. How far could they have gone and how bad could things really be that one of the parents couldn’t get out by then? Again, I’m saying prior to heat stroke or exhaustion setting in. The heat would have been apparent, they could have just turned around 20-30 minutes in. Also, I had those fancy hiking carries and 1 year olds do not generally like them-they want to be walking and moving around unless they are asleep.

I live in the desert and yes it’s cool in the mornings, but that means 5/6 AM. By 9 AM, nobody goes outside on these kinds of days.

They weren’t tourists. They knew this area. On the WS thread, they said that the dad had been on this trail at least once before and had owned property in the area for years.

It just does not make sense.[/quote]

From Alltrails, the dad had been on the easier part of the loop before but it looks like he hadn't been on the Savage-Lundy trail before (the steep ascent where they were found).  I agree that a long hike on such a hot day seems like a monumentally bad decision.  Unfortunately, people make monumentally bad decisions sometimes.  They get stuck on one thing and disregard information that contradicts what they want.  Everybody does it and it's usually not fatal.  It's all just very sad and I wish this family could have a do-over.

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