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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Harvard has 6.56% Black students Yale has 6.53% Black students Princeton has 10% Black students (undergrad) Can someone please explain to me how this is unacceptable to folks? Would y'all prefer those percentages be 0%?? https://datausa.io/profile/university/harvard-university#:~:text=The%20enrolled%20student%20population%20at%20Harvard%20University%20is%2039.7%25%20White,Hawaiian%20or%20Other%20Pacific%20Islanders. https://datausa.io/profile/university/yale-university https://inclusive.princeton.edu/about/demographics[/quote] I honestly don't care whether those student bodies are 30% black or 3% black, so long as the admissions factors are race-neutral. I don't want a college excluding [b][i]or including[/b][/i] anyone because of the color of their skin.[/quote] At lot of Asians come from countries where test scores are the determining factor for state college admission (in some countries private universities is a very new thing). It is all they know. Study hard, get good grades and test scores so you can hopefully get into a good state university. It is why some can't understand why the same process does not work, and will never work, in the U.S. Private institutions will always find a way to gerrymander the applicants to get the desired mix of students. Most people who say this mean they want a way to game admissions in their favor. The last thing they want is a fair process.[/quote] Nothing in elite private college admissions is "fair." They are the "sellers" here and will pick whomever they want to shape a class.[/quote][/quote] At lot of Asians come from countries where test scores are the determining factor for state college admission (in some countries private universities is a very new thing). It is all they know. Study hard, get good grades and test scores so you can hopefully get into a good state university. It is why some can't understand why the same process does not work, and will never work, in the U.S. Private institutions will always find a way to gerrymander the applicants to get the desired mix of students. Most people who say this mean they want a way to game admissions in their favor. The last thing they want is a fair process.[/quote] [/quote] +1 Agree. But as an immigrant, I would have appreciated someone tell me 1.) test scores are not the only way to get an education in the U.S. and 2.) Not everyone can go "ivy" 3.) Plenty of Americans attend great schools, too 4.) Everyone goes to college nowadays, which means the US is now as competitive as any other country. Lastly, 5.) the "stupid American" sentiment is overused - and no longer accurate [/quote] I’ve lived overseas and attended school overseas. You really do have to do your research before you go. The US system is very different from other countries. It has some great benefits and some parts that are not so great. Don’t know where you are from, but #5 is a little odd to me as a former ex pat. I’d never underestimate my host country residents on their own turf. [/quote]
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