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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]I love how the same people calling her boring and phony are so seized on her alleged hot and deeply passionate relationship with that rat-faced singer and psycho-analyzing all of her lyrics allegedly about him.[/b] Her entire life is fake. She doesn't know up from down. She's a socially stunted child star weirdo. And she clearly isn't writing all of her songs, she obvi has teams of ghostwriters signing NDAs, so I wouldn't read anything into the babble she sings.[/quote]

:lol:  You just described yourself.  And yes - she does indeed write her own songs either alone or with collaborators (Jack Antonoff, Aaron Dessner, Shellback, Max Martin, Bon Iver, etc.) - and she credits them each and every time.  [/quote]

She does not credit people every single time or she would have credited Michael Jackson and "I Want You Back" for using his ideas for "Wood" on TLOAS.

Antonoff is over her.

Shellback and Martin are likely over her by now. You can hear how she doesn't listen to Martin and Shellback and talks over them if you listen to her voice memos. If you listen to Ariana and Martin working together, you see a whole different level of professionalism and collaboration.

It's fine. She can be mid and still sell out her stadiums. Her core fans will buy anything at this point--even broken TLOAS hairbrushes and lightning bolt necklaces that break.
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You keep bringing up her “voice memos.”  I have no idea what you’re referencing.  But how funny that someone who thinks she’s “mid” and is fixated on baseless, evidence-free claims, knows all about obscure things that most people couldn’t care less about.

You are the very definition of a “core fan,” which must be upsetting for you to acknowledge![/quote]

I thought the same thing! I’m actually a pretty big Taylor fan and I have never heard these voice memos lol.

It’s so weird that a non-fan would bother. [/quote]

It reminds me of "Actually Romantic," tbh!  I'm not a fan of that song, but it completely applies to the rabid haters here.  They spend SO much time and energy researching the mundane and diving down internet rabbit holes that normal people simply don't care about.  Someone else was referring to Swift fans as "parasocial," but that term perfectly describes her haters.  It's pretty amusing.[/quote]

TBH, I wouldn’t point out that song as being anything but cringe. She says it makes her get sexual pleasure from it,  (but not in a lesbian way, one would presume). In the manly “ I get sexual pleasure when I establish dominance over women” kind of way.[/quote]

[b]If she left out the wet line it would work. Its one of the better songs. Imo fate of ophelia, actually romantic, ruin the fruendship, and maybe cancelled are the only decent songs, but the wet line nearly ruins actually romantic completely. Why do it. Wood nearly ruins the album c9mpletely. Why do it?[/b] I feel like there is some self sabatage going on. Like she wants to be popular but low key hates her fans and what she has to do to be popular with her fans. She really is a weirdo (terminal uniqueness) but is beloved for being the opposit: the gooofy, studious girl next door who lands the movie star or football king. She isnt basic but is beloved for being basic and knows it - read the poem about her fans at eras. Low key hates her fans and cant help herself in this album to see how far she can push them away without losing them.. Or wood is a sister song to the smallest man and shows shes still hung up on matty.[/quote]

I agree with the bolded.  The wet line is awful and totally ruined the song.  Wood is awful too.  I definitely skip those songs.

But "hates her fans"?  No.  That's just a bizarre take.  I think in so many of her songs, she admits to being a socially inept "weirdo," and that is endearing to a lot of people who are the same way.  She is awkward, endearingly so.  And her fans love that about her.  [/quote]

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