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[quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]jsteele, you will never be an effective debater of these sorts of topics if you insist on always using over the top, emotional, misleading rhetoric.

You didn't define what "backlash" means.  You also are being extremely evasive.   OP never denounced radical Islamic violence.  Why would I demand that someone denounce radical Islamic violence?  Well, if that person is complaining that they are afraid of receiving "backlash" because they haven't denounced the recent Islamic violence, then it seems it would make sense to find out whether they were willing to actually denounce it, wouldn't it?  OP hasn't.

Is it OK with you, if I "criticize" OP for complaining about a hypothetical "backlash" (which she hasn't actually experienced) when she hasn't even bothered to denounce the Islamic violence which is at the root of it?

You see, jsteele, OP didn't denounce radical Islamic violence which occurred recently.  She evaded the issue by claiming that's not the kind of Islam SHE was taught as a child in the Boston mosque 35 years ago.  The inference being that it couldn't possibly be true that current radical Islamic doctrine is responsible for these violent acts.

"Criticism" of Muslims who want to shut down criticism of their failure to clearly renounce radical Islamic violence by claiming ignorance of it does support the violence, indirectly, as do your posts.   If you feel that is unfair "backlash," then you're simply a progagandist.

Do you want me to denounce discrimination against Muslims?  Of course I do.

Does that have anything at all to do with any of the straw men being raised by you, or by the OP?  Of course it doesn't.[/quote]

It is not "over the top, emotional, misleading" to say that you have completely adopted a "guilty until proven innocent" approach toward Muslims. Your assumption is that they deserve a backlash unless they have denounced violence. Moreover, you have ignored the OP's denunciation and misrepresented what she wrote:

[quote]OP here, of course I denounce the attacks in Paris. I denounce all violence. And no I do not know the Muslim teachings they are using. That is not what I was taught when I went to Sunday School at a mosque in Boston when I was a kid.[/quote]

Given that she has met your requirement for a denunciation, I expect you to retract your criticism.

If you are not sure what is meant by backlash, let me give you some examples;

http://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/islamophobia-since-paris-attacks#.faPX6qbNd

The details are available at the link, but here are some examples:

1. Threatening calls to a mosque in St. Petersburg, Florida
2. Acts of vandalism at the Islamic Center of Pflugerville, Texas
3. Threats to “shoot up a mosque” near Houston
4. Islamic Center vandalized in Omaha, Nebraska
5. Mosque fired upon in Connecticut
6. Muslim student’s dorm room vandalized in Connecticut
7. Man calls 911 to threaten to shoot Muslims in Oklahoma

In addition to these, I am aware of two incidents in which passengers were forced off aircraft because they were though to be Muslim.

If you truly denounce discrimination against Muslims, you need to start by dropping your assumption that they are supporters of violence until they demonstrate otherwise. Otherwise, all males should be presumed to be rapists until proven otherwise, all those displaying Confederate flags should be considered supporters of killing blacks until they denounce such killings, etc. The very basis of racism is the idea that every member has the same negative attribute. While Islam is obviously no a race, it is similarly wrong to assume that every Muslim is a supporter of violence.

Again, the OP provided a denunciation. You should at least acknowledge that.
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