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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]But what is objectively ugly? I have days where I feel ugly and I almost never walk into a room with assurance that I'm one of the best looking women in there... But it doesn't necessarily mean I'm truly ugly. I also agree that everyone can be pretty in their own way. [/quote]

Disfigurement is usually ugly. Really weird proportions or asymmetry. There probably isn't much that can be done for these things. But they're also pretty rare, so I have to agree with you that most people posting here are objectively low average rather than truly ugly. When I think "ugly," I think "grotesque" -- like Hunchback of Notre Dame. There just aren't that many people out there who look like that. Maybe they have all somehow found this thread, but I doubt it. I am average to low average myself -- definitely looked better 1 baby and 20 pounds ago. I have never thought I looked that great but I've never had the awful experiences others have recounted on this thread.

I was thinking about this thread on my commute today and looking around me on the metro. Really, most people are average to attractive. There were some who weren't great looking and a few who were really nice looking, but mostly that was in the presentation -- makeup, hair. I think I saw only one truly beautiful woman -- I mean beautiful regardless of what she was wearing -- and she was dressed in a landscaping company uniform, wearing no visible makeup, and planting flowerbeds near the Mayflower hotel.

And, of course, there is so much subjectivity. Lupita Nyong'o is one of the most beautiful women I have ever seen. (At least in makeup and on the red carpet, which is the only way I've ever seen her.) The blond, heavily made-up sorority-girl look doesn't do it for me; I think "cute," not "beautiful." I think Anne Hathaway is gorgeous but she gets so much hate! But of course, if you grow up with the standard of beauty being the blond sorority girl, and you don't look like that, it's easy to think of yourself as ugly.[/quote]

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