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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In that case, lets say your kid gets in one of the schools you mentioned, Stanford, MIT or Wharton but no financial aid or very little. How are you going to justify a $80k+ vs £9.3k?[/quote]

That is a tough one. For us UK citizens, outside of Oxbridge is a full pay degree from Stanford/MIT/Wharton worth $300k more than a degree from Durham, St. Andrews or Warwick? As a Brit, I personally do not think so. But lets see what happens.[/quote]

My kid was accepted to Brown ED. Zero aid. He is going to St Andrews.[/quote]

Breaking the ED contract? Why apply ED the? Hugely unethical. [/quote]

Please stop. ED only apply in the US….go ahead and let the school sue….will never happen….[/quote]

That’s actually not true. My DC ended up not applying to Oxford for that reason. [/quote]

That was your choice. The US system and its “college counselors“ brainwash parents and scare them to death about turning down a ED offer for a foreign offer when there is ZERO impact to the US college. They are notified immediately on most cases I know, it is not like there is this one spot now lost in a vacum…please. In our case, we were in the fine line between getting some need based aid and not. Not wealthy enough to easily afford full pay and income not low enough to qualify for need based aid. So the decision was mainly financial. [/quote]

Yes, it was our (ethnical) choice. This is not about being scared but about breaking an agreement. My DC is in a private school, and there is no way the college counselor would have been on board with applying ED domestically while keeping UK options. In fact, going back on ED agreement is bad for future applicants for the high school. And we thought it would set a wrong example for DC in being so selfish. [/quote]

Sorry, but you're not making sense here. What if your kid was rejected from the ED school?

For ED, you are allowed to apply to other schools at the same time.  However, you promise to attend the ED if accepted. Since Oxbridge applications are due in October but you don't get an ED decision until December, it is certainly ethical to put in applications for Oxbridge (and St. Andrews, LSE, etc).  Then, if the kid gets an ED acceptance, you are required to pull your applications at the UK schools.

I can understand that your counselor would not be okay with any continued effort toward UK schools AFTER and ED acceptance, but not before.[/quote]

Yes, you can put both applications but the commitment is to attend the ED school. The Oxford decisions come out in early January. The college counselor thought that the chances of getting into ED school were extremely high and that we had to honor the commitment if accepted. That took Oxford off the table, especially as the application process is not trivial. [/quote]

Well, you must have a very strong student AND a strong hook to feel so confident about an Ivy ED. Congratulations!

Nonetheless, your confidence is pretty unusual.  There's no reason for others applying ED to forego EA applications and UK applications even if they intend to honor their ED commitment. [/quote]

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