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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Seems to  me that if every middle school can send kids to TJ, then every middle school should be able to offer AAP.[/quote]

Not that straightforward because certain courses require certain requirements.  For example, a random teacher can’t just teach algebra and geometry (which is why algebra in 6th grade is crazy).  You need a math endorsement from VDOE.  Some local schools may not have the staff with those requirements.  [/quote]

I believe every MS has math teachers for Algebra 1 and most have a teacher for Geometry but those classes are not AAP classes.

But there are schools that do not have enough AAP students to offer AAP classes so the AAP kids are in honors classes. Center schools can offer AAP classes because they have more students and can offer multiple AAP classes in LA, Social Studies, and Science to meet the scheduling needs of the AAP kids at the school.

Some people will tell you that the honors courses are teaching the same material as the AAP courses, some people will tell you that the AAP courses go a bit more in depth. At a Center school, AAP kids will only be in classes with other AAP kids. Parents send their kids to the Center because they think the peer group is stronger and they don't like the open enrollment in Honors classes.

Every MS should hve enough kids who were selected for AAP that they have enough kids to fill out multiple sections of the 3 core AAP classes. There really isn't a need for MS Centers. [/quote]

Why are people so bothered by MS center schools?  What’s it to you if AAP kids choose to go to a center school over the local?  It has no effect on your kid. [/quote]

Not true in some cases. Take Lewis for example. Kids leave the pyramid for AAP middle school and then frequently transfer for high school (like at LBSS). This robs Lewis of high performing students and thus impacts the advanced courses Lewis can offer.[/quote]

It is not an AAP kid’s job to create opportunity for non-AAP students.  That is the job of FCPS.  If you want better programming, you need to ask the county to provide it.  Another student shouldn’t have to compromise on their education to trick FCPS into offering better programming.  [/quote]

Your kid can still have access to AAP if they offer it at every middle school.  You aren’t owed a massive AAP center that is fed by three or four middle schools. [/quote]

Why does it matter to you?  Why so bothered?[/quote]

I am going to guess you're a parent whose kid will go to Franklin instead of Carson if they put AAP at all middle schools. Why so worried? If there is an AAP program at Franklin your kid will be with many of their peers from Navy. Why should you get a choice to optimize your kid's education without having to move to a new home, that others do not get? [/quote]

If that's the case, that a parent is concerned about sending their child to Franklin instead of Carson, they shouldn't worry. I sent kids through AAP programs at both Carson and Franklin, and we were significantly more impressed with Franklin's program than Carson's. There is nothing to worry about.[/quote]

That’s funny. I had one at Carson and one at Franklin. Franklin was a complete joke. The teachers are not good, they don’t use best practice, and it’s completely unorganized. Not to mention the pathetic after school program. [/quote]

You had that experience with Franklin's AAP program? I'm shocked. The AAP teachers, especially History 7, Algebra I Honors, English 7, and Geometry Honors are very good and they for sure used best practice. I also wouldn't call any of those teachers disorganized. In fact, my AAP kids learned good organizational skills from their History 7, English 7, and Algebra teachers in 7th grade.[/quote]

+1. DD is currently at Franklin and her teachers are absolutely phenomenal. [/quote]

I may be wrong but I believe the boundary proposals stated that Franklin would be severely over capacity if the boundary changes went thru as is.  It’s currently at 95% and if everyone returned to the base school it would be at 131% or so.  Maybe they will shift some kids out of Franklin to make room?  Otherwise I don’t see Carson kids getting absorbed easily.  [/quote]

No I think you're wrong. Franklin is at 80-something. Plenty of room for the Carson kids.[/quote]

The initial boundary review did identify and state that adding everyone back to their base school would put Franklin at 131%.  It states it would be over capacity by a volume that isn’t acceptable to the county.  They may have to shift some Franklin kids to Rocky Run or Luther Jackson to make room for Carson kids returning.[/quote]
Franklin’s program capacity has been shrinking to match its enrollment. It’s historically had a capacity around 970 (and as high as 1000) that was recently decreased to 844. If they bumped up the program capacity they could stay around 110%. Shifting the kids south of Rt 50 is such an easy fix that should get them the rest of the way and also eliminates/reduces split elementary schools. [/quote]

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