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People want economic change but they don’t want illegal immigrants pouring across the border or trans swimmers setting women’s swimming records. Dems need to tack left on economics - like AOC and Bernie - but tack right on social issues - like Seth Moulten or Tester - if they want to have a hope of winning a national election. [/quote]

Democrats don't want illegal immigration. Biden and Obama deported many more and legally, than Trump.
Democrats supported border reform bills that would address the many structural issues that exist. The GOP has tanked the bills every time they were offered, mostly to keep people like you angry. Sadly, their ploy worked.

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Stop gaslighting people. This was the 2020 Democratic Primary. This is the kind of self own by Dems that played right into Trump’s hands. Obama would NEVER had said fringe / wacko stuff like this in 2008.

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So you would prefer human beings simply die in the streets? I mean, as it is, doctors are obliged to treat humans regardless of status in emergency rooms, so we are already paying for it. Including illegals in healthcare plans make it a lost less expensive for society as a whole. But people like you don't know how things work and don't care and long as you can own the libs.[/quote]

I only posted this because I didn’t have time to post the other moment of them agreeing that illegal immigration should be treated with civil fines and not deportation. The combination of both these moments infuriated Dem centrists like me. I could never vote for Trump but a lot of independents and socially conservative Dems moved to Trump because of stuff like this. If Dems just went back to Obama’s immigration stance, or Bernie’s when he said illegal immigration depressed wages and was a “Koch brothers plot,” Trump would never be here.[/quote]

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