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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Does anyone wonder why the heck we have so many violent elementary aged students nowadays? There existed in the past, but it feels like in every school I hear of multiple kids who are destructive and dangerous. What has changed?[/quote] I’m an SN parent and I’ve spent 10+ yrs on the Kids with SN forum. I was reading it yesterday wondering the same thing. The first page is filled with variations on the same topic. So many kids are struggling and it’s coming out as violent behavior in the classroom. I was trying to remember if it was always this bad once school got underway but this year just seems overwhelmingly bad.[/quote] I'm a Special Education teacher and have a child with a disability. Schools have been quietly whittling away services and making the job impossible for the past 10 years or so. Fewer services and fewer teachers who can provide the existing services is a recipe for disaster. Each year feels a little worse than the one before because qualified people are not willing to take a job where they're underpaid and not respected.[/quote] +1 we’ve cut self-contained programs and are striving to have even students with significant needs in gen Ed 80% of the time. It’s not going well. [/quote] Ex-teacher and SN parent here. This tracks with my experience. [/quote] Time for a class action lawsuit to get school districts back in alignment with the law. Nobody's needs are being served this way.[/quote] Good luck. These issues are largely due to federal laws regarding proportional discipline & least restrictive environment, among others. [/quote] DP and true. I do think there’s going to be endless drain to the charters and privates until this reverses - but that will take decades and a return of some form of warehousing. I don’t see a middle path with this, because parents of kids without learning disabilities or physical limitations absolutely cannot and will not deal in full with badly behaved kids with dubious psychological excuses masked as diagnoses. That monster who shot Abby Zwerner at 6 almost choked out a teacher at 5 and sexually touched girls at 4 and 5- he’s the extreme example of the kind of behavior this thread is all about. And his nasty assed mom who lied about the gun had time to go to his school daily - but not to homeschool or seek a more restrictive placement or additional assessment. Her mentality is often extant to a lesser degree in parents who have bad/violent kids. They themselves don’t like or trust their kids so they need the kid to be the public schools problem. So any change will ultimate reverse gains there to what I believe will be a bad degree, but this won’t happen in time to save a good student from an often-evacuated class - and it also won’t make the class nightmare more educable or employable when all is said and done.[/quote]
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