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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] A lot US citizens are really upset that they have waited years and years to sponsor family members from to join them from other countries while people are cutting in line as so many people claiming asylum are clearly economic refugees.

If you followed the official process and you are a US citizen who wants to sponsor your unmarried children who are over 21, the Department of State is processing applications filed in October of 2015- so 9 years. If your children live in Mexico the wait is even longer- they are processing applications submitted Jan 2003- so 21 years.

If you want to sponsor your brother or sister application filed in 2007 are being processed - so 17 years (and longer for certain countries).

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-bulletin/2025/visa-bulletin-for-october-2024.html

So now imagine you have been waiting that long and Biden in October of 2022 decides he is going to let people from certain countries cut in line. So he flies in roughly 214,000  Haitians, 117,000 Venezuelans, 111,000 Cubans and 96,000 Nicaraguans  to the U.S. so far under the policy.

Now add to that all the asylum seekers who are economic refugees but are also cutting the line.

People who aren't immigrants or who don't have family members who are immigrants have no idea what is really happening.

This new wave is completely different and it is going to be a disaster. Historically migrants to the US have made their own way and don't immediately rely on hand outs and free housing (not including refugees and we actually don't take many refugees as a country). Listen to the podcast from This American Life 818 Stand Clear of the Moving doors. I suppose they meant it to be sympathetic, but the profile a group consisting of two families traveling with two guys that show up to the Roosevelt Hotel expecting to get free hotel rooms. The city buses them to a tent shelter where they can stay for free. The families leave and go back to the Roosevelt hotel to demand hotel rooms explaining ""They said they were going to send us to a hotel, but it wasn't a hotel. It's a campsite," says one of the men, "where we're all sleeping on cots. And we need our privacy for the kids. You understand? And the bathrooms-- they're not in the main tent. You have to go outside to use them."   So the family has come on foot all the way from Venezuela through Central America and Mexico and the tent shelter being offered is probably way better than anywhere else they stayed along with way.

When so many are coming with an expectation that the US owes them something, it doesn't bode well for everyone else here.

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Thanks for recommending the episode.  Those people are something![/quote]

It really was eye opening. https://www.thisamericanlife.org/818/stand-clear-of-the-closing-doors
It aired last December. My family and in-laws are immigrants from Latin America some came legally and some not but what we have in common is that we didn't expect any handouts. We got help from family to get settled or got a job right away and supported themselves. So we believe immigration makes this country better but so many new immigrants are giving us a bad name expecting that the United States owes them housing and food. In the epidode NYC has spent 2 billion dollars on new migrants.

They interview another woman from Peru whose dream has been to come to New York City

They interview her and the translator explains, "She's been in the US for six months now. She was one of the people I talked to who did not have a difficult or dangerous journey here. She flew to Mexico, walked across the border, got picked up by border patrol and requested asylum. Then she flew from Texas to New York City."   If you have the money to book multiple flights how do you get to claim asylum in the US coming from Peru?

Then the next segment is on new students.  "So there are 20,000 of these new migrant kids enrolled in New York City schools at the start of the school year." That is such a massive number of new students to absorb in one year.

Now with social media the word has spread that NYC offers free housing. So one really nice person helping African immigrants explains the situation of why so many migrants are coming, "She founded this place to serve a new generation of migrants from places like Guinea and Mauritania who've been making their way to the United States in the last couple of years. Those people started coming in large numbers this summer in part because of a Nicaraguan government's decision to change their visa system. So Africans could just fly to Nicaragua, and from there, walk and hitchhike to the United States. You no longer had to pass through the often-lethal Darien Gap connecting Colombia and Panama. Word spread on social media about it. And lots of people came." We can't support everyone around the world.

The story then continues that she is trying to place 27 young men ages 18-21 into NYC youth transitional shelters, "Adama's biggest challenge today is 27 young men, aged 18 through 21 here in the US without their parents. Today, Adama wants to find them all housing. And she's trying to get them into what she says is the gold standard here.

Instead of regular migrant shelters, she wants to get them placed in the city's youth shelter system. That system serves all young New Yorkers aged 16 through 21 without homes, not just migrants. And in the youth shelter system, you could potentially get a spot for up to two years, not just 30 days. You also get vocational training, mental health services, and help finding schools, which are all services these kids would rarely get in the regular migrant shelters.

It's going to be hard for Adama to place all 27 boys [they are all 18 and over] , though, because a lot of the youth shelters are full."

So there isn't enough space for US citizens in these youth shelters, so it doesn't make sense that young adults who arrive are taking spaces from people who grew up in NYC and need help.

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