Anonymous wrote:Trump you mean the guy who shut down the vote for border security where all republicans voted against it?? Him??

You mean the guy who made millions with Bannon on his build the wall scam how’s that working out Bannon in jail so are the other contractors all of them?

You mean the installation of Stephen Miller of Border czar better buckle up bitter cup Millers your worst nightmare

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’re voting for trump because they’re racist morons. No other explanation.

I'm a teacher. Do you honestly think a class in which 75% or more of the students are learning English as a second language doesn't impact the instructional pace? That's not a racist comment. It's a big challenge for the teachers and students.

I’m a teacher too and I hear you. I’m not an ESOL teacher. I value our ESOL staff but they are overwhelmed and getting more so every day. Even mentioning this strain gets us all tagged as racists in progressive circles from people who wouldn’t last an hour in a classroom.

Anonymous wrote:Trump you mean the guy who shut down the vote for border security where all republicans voted against it?? Him??

You mean the guy who made millions with Bannon on his build the wall scam how’s that working out Bannon in jail so are the other contractors all of them?

You mean the installation of Stephen Miller of Border czar better buckle up bitter cup Millers your worst nightmare

Anonymous wrote:This thread is informative. But I still think, especially if Trump doesn’t even do a good job with immigration, the dangers he brings are greater. I would elaborate but if you really don’t see this nothing will wake you up.

Anonymous wrote:
It's really something witnessing people who are convinced they are intellectually superior, deny deny deny what illegal immigration is doing to this country - even in the face of the WaPo, NYT, et al reporting on this disaster.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They’re voting for trump because they’re racist morons. No other explanation.

I'm a teacher. Do you honestly think a class in which 75% or more of the students are learning English as a second language doesn't impact the instructional pace? That's not a racist comment. It's a big challenge for the teachers and students.

Anonymous wrote:Trump you mean the guy who shut down the vote for border security where all republicans voted against it?? Him??

You mean the guy who made millions with Bannon on his build the wall scam how’s that working out Bannon in jail so are the other contractors all of them?

You mean the installation of Stephen Miller of Border czar better buckle up bitter cup Millers your worst nightmare

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There have been recent articles about the influx of migrants into small towns, such as Whitewater, Wisconsin. Those of you denying there is any negative impact on U.S. citizens need your heads examined.

“Springfield, Ohio, isn’t the only small Midwestern city dealing with an unprecedented influx of migrants and the strain it places on municipal services. Whitewater, Wis., Police Chief Daniel Meyer started noticing increased encounters between his officers and recently arrived migrants from Nicaragua and Venezuela in early 2022. Mr. Meyer estimates that at least 1,000 migrants from Central America established themselves in the city of 15,000 in 2022 and 2023. Officials in Whitewater, about an hour west of Milwaukee, have had difficulty managing the stresses on law enforcement, housing stock and schools. With no advance warning from the federal government, the city was caught completely unprepared by the migrant influx.

The proliferation of overcrowded living spaces shared by people who are unrelated has resulted in a spike of domestic and sexual assault claims to Whitewater police. An investigation into the alleged kidnapping of a minor revealed that a migrant had held the girl against her will for three days. She claimed the man choked and hit her while pointing a gun at her head.

Latin American gangs have also arrived in Wisconsin. Earlier this month a woman was sexually assaulted in Prairie du Chien by a suspected member of Tren de Aragua, the violent criminal organization born a decade ago in Venezuela’s prisons. Whitewater police have determined that Nicaraguan members of the Salvadoran gang MS-13 are present in the city. Cops have seized almost a quarter million dollars of cartel funds as part of various investigations.

The nation’s broken immigration system is placing an unmanageable burden on local governments. Federal assistance is often unavailable or insufficient. Whitewater has sought state help, including from the governor’s office, but officials in Madison prefer to keep the meetings low-profile to avoid press coverage. With so much money flying out the door, the Whitewater police and school district are considering referendums to authorize an increase in property taxes to cover operational expenses in spring 2025.

Congress and the White House need to secure the border. State and local governments need to know that a clear process exists for removing violent migrants from their communities. To the extent that migrants have legally settled somewhere, towns and cities like Whitewater need the resources to offset the strain on basic public services like policing and education.”
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/how-the-migrant-crisis-strains-municipal-services-in-a-small-city-midwest-whitewater-wisconsin-central-americans-75b6be5f?st=L59Qsi&reflink=article_copyURL_share

And a letter to the editor from a Whitewater resident:

In Jacob Curtis’s article detailing the challenges the huge influx of migrants is posing to my little town (“How the Migrant Crisis Strains Whitewater, Wis.,” Cross Country, Sept. 28), the biggest challenge went largely unremarked. According to the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction, in addition to the number of special-needs students, the number of economically disadvantaged and English-learner students in a district is the biggest driver of educational outcomes. Migrant children almost always fall in both of these latter two categories.

As a result, what used to be an above-average school district in a university town has seen the biggest drop in educational achievement in the state for larger districts. We are in the bottom 17% and falling, driving many parents, including even some on the school board, to enroll their kids elsewhere.

To put it mildly, it’s frustrating to hear politicians imply we are racist xenophobes for our concern over what’s happening to our schools. No doubt most of these politicians ensure their own kids don’t see a classroom with even one English learner. They make up half of some of our classrooms.

Henri Kinson

And Trump will fix this how?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yup, I’m voting for Trump based on the Biden-Harris open borders disaster. All I have to do is look at his first term in office and the policies he implemented to see he would be far more effective on the issue. 10 million illegals won’t enter the country like they would in a second Harris term. She and the rest of the administration have no interest in securing the border. Only finding more ways to fly the illegals directly into our communities, spending billions of dollars of taxpayer money to give them public benefits, and giving them all amnesty so they are all citizens and receive even more public benefits (and vote for Democrats, of course).

I don’t think legal Haitian immigrants are going to vote for Trump, who brought them to the US, because he’s now vilifying them. Can you blame them? And, undocumented workers aren’t voting—it’s illegal and very rare—even though they pay taxes.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There have been recent articles about the influx of migrants into small towns, such as Whitewater, Wisconsin. Those of you denying there is any negative impact on U.S. citizens need your heads examined.

“Springfield, Ohio, isn’t the only small Midwestern city dealing with an unprecedented influx of migrants and the strain it places on municipal services. Whitewater, Wis., Police Chief Daniel Meyer started noticing increased encounters between his officers and recently arrived migrants from Nicaragua and Venezuela in early 2022. Mr. Meyer estimates that at least 1,000 migrants from Central America established themselves in the city of 15,000 in 2022 and 2023. Officials in Whitewater, about an hour west of Milwaukee, have had difficulty managing the stresses on law enforcement, housing stock and schools. With no advance warning from the federal government, the city was caught completely unprepared by the migrant influx.

The proliferation of overcrowded living spaces shared by people who are unrelated has resulted in a spike of domestic and sexual assault claims to Whitewater police. An investigation into the alleged kidnapping of a minor revealed that a migrant had held the girl against her will for three days. She claimed the man choked and hit her while pointing a gun at her head.

Latin American gangs have also arrived in Wisconsin. Earlier this month a woman was sexually assaulted in Prairie du Chien by a suspected member of Tren de Aragua, the violent criminal organization born a decade ago in Venezuela’s prisons. Whitewater police have determined that Nicaraguan members of the Salvadoran gang MS-13 are present in the city. Cops have seized almost a quarter million dollars of cartel funds as part of various investigations.

The nation’s broken immigration system is placing an unmanageable burden on local governments. Federal assistance is often unavailable or insufficient. Whitewater has sought state help, including from the governor’s office, but officials in Madison prefer to keep the meetings low-profile to avoid press coverage. With so much money flying out the door, the Whitewater police and school district are considering referendums to authorize an increase in property taxes to cover operational expenses in spring 2025.

Congress and the White House need to secure the border. State and local governments need to know that a clear process exists for removing violent migrants from their communities. To the extent that migrants have legally settled somewhere, towns and cities like Whitewater need the resources to offset the strain on basic public services like policing and education.”
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/how-the-migrant-crisis-strains-municipal-services-in-a-small-city-midwest-whitewater-wisconsin-central-americans-75b6be5f?st=L59Qsi&reflink=article_copyURL_share

And a letter to the editor from a Whitewater resident:

In Jacob Curtis’s article detailing the challenges the huge influx of migrants is posing to my little town (“How the Migrant Crisis Strains Whitewater, Wis.,” Cross Country, Sept. 28), the biggest challenge went largely unremarked. According to the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction, in addition to the number of special-needs students, the number of economically disadvantaged and English-learner students in a district is the biggest driver of educational outcomes. Migrant children almost always fall in both of these latter two categories.

As a result, what used to be an above-average school district in a university town has seen the biggest drop in educational achievement in the state for larger districts. We are in the bottom 17% and falling, driving many parents, including even some on the school board, to enroll their kids elsewhere.

To put it mildly, it’s frustrating to hear politicians imply we are racist xenophobes for our concern over what’s happening to our schools. No doubt most of these politicians ensure their own kids don’t see a classroom with even one English learner. They make up half of some of our classrooms.

Henri Kinson

And Trump will fix this how?

Anonymous wrote:Maga is so dumb
Sure let’s support another Trump scam give our money to our god of treason .

Anonymous wrote:There have been recent articles about the influx of migrants into small towns, such as Whitewater, Wisconsin. Those of you denying there is any negative impact on U.S. citizens need your heads examined.

“Springfield, Ohio, isn’t the only small Midwestern city dealing with an unprecedented influx of migrants and the strain it places on municipal services. Whitewater, Wis., Police Chief Daniel Meyer started noticing increased encounters between his officers and recently arrived migrants from Nicaragua and Venezuela in early 2022. Mr. Meyer estimates that at least 1,000 migrants from Central America established themselves in the city of 15,000 in 2022 and 2023. Officials in Whitewater, about an hour west of Milwaukee, have had difficulty managing the stresses on law enforcement, housing stock and schools. With no advance warning from the federal government, the city was caught completely unprepared by the migrant influx.

The proliferation of overcrowded living spaces shared by people who are unrelated has resulted in a spike of domestic and sexual assault claims to Whitewater police. An investigation into the alleged kidnapping of a minor revealed that a migrant had held the girl against her will for three days. She claimed the man choked and hit her while pointing a gun at her head.

Latin American gangs have also arrived in Wisconsin. Earlier this month a woman was sexually assaulted in Prairie du Chien by a suspected member of Tren de Aragua, the violent criminal organization born a decade ago in Venezuela’s prisons. Whitewater police have determined that Nicaraguan members of the Salvadoran gang MS-13 are present in the city. Cops have seized almost a quarter million dollars of cartel funds as part of various investigations.

The nation’s broken immigration system is placing an unmanageable burden on local governments. Federal assistance is often unavailable or insufficient. Whitewater has sought state help, including from the governor’s office, but officials in Madison prefer to keep the meetings low-profile to avoid press coverage. With so much money flying out the door, the Whitewater police and school district are considering referendums to authorize an increase in property taxes to cover operational expenses in spring 2025.

Congress and the White House need to secure the border. State and local governments need to know that a clear process exists for removing violent migrants from their communities. To the extent that migrants have legally settled somewhere, towns and cities like Whitewater need the resources to offset the strain on basic public services like policing and education.”
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/how-the-migrant-crisis-strains-municipal-services-in-a-small-city-midwest-whitewater-wisconsin-central-americans-75b6be5f?st=L59Qsi&reflink=article_copyURL_share

And a letter to the editor from a Whitewater resident:

In Jacob Curtis’s article detailing the challenges the huge influx of migrants is posing to my little town (“How the Migrant Crisis Strains Whitewater, Wis.,” Cross Country, Sept. 28), the biggest challenge went largely unremarked. According to the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction, in addition to the number of special-needs students, the number of economically disadvantaged and English-learner students in a district is the biggest driver of educational outcomes. Migrant children almost always fall in both of these latter two categories.

As a result, what used to be an above-average school district in a university town has seen the biggest drop in educational achievement in the state for larger districts. We are in the bottom 17% and falling, driving many parents, including even some on the school board, to enroll their kids elsewhere.

To put it mildly, it’s frustrating to hear politicians imply we are racist xenophobes for our concern over what’s happening to our schools. No doubt most of these politicians ensure their own kids don’t see a classroom with even one English learner. They make up half of some of our classrooms.

Henri Kinson

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: A lot US citizens are really upset that they have waited years and years to sponsor family members from to join them from other countries while people are cutting in line as so many people claiming asylum are clearly economic refugees.

If you followed the official process and you are a US citizen who wants to sponsor your unmarried children who are over 21, the Department of State is processing applications filed in October of 2015- so 9 years. If your children live in Mexico the wait is even longer- they are processing applications submitted Jan 2003- so 21 years.

If you want to sponsor your brother or sister application filed in 2007 are being processed - so 17 years (and longer for certain countries).

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-bulletin/2025/visa-bulletin-for-october-2024.html

So now imagine you have been waiting that long and Biden in October of 2022 decides he is going to let people from certain countries cut in line. So he flies in roughly 214,000  Haitians, 117,000 Venezuelans, 111,000 Cubans and 96,000 Nicaraguans to the U.S. so far under the policy.

Now add to that all the asylum seekers who are economic refugees but are also cutting the line.

People who aren't immigrants or who don't have family members who are immigrants have no idea what is really happening.

This new wave is completely different and it is going to be a disaster. Historically migrants to the US have made their own way and don't immediately rely on hand outs and free housing (not including refugees and we actually don't take many refugees as a country). Listen to the podcast from This American Life 818 Stand Clear of the Moving doors. I suppose they meant it to be sympathetic, but the profile a group consisting of two families traveling with two guys that show up to the Roosevelt Hotel expecting to get free hotel rooms. The city buses them to a tent shelter where they can stay for free. The families leave and go back to the Roosevelt hotel to demand hotel rooms explaining ""They said they were going to send us to a hotel, but it wasn't a hotel. It's a campsite," says one of the men, "where we're all sleeping on cots. And we need our privacy for the kids. You understand? And the bathrooms-- they're not in the main tent. You have to go outside to use them." So the family has come on foot all the way from Venezuela through Central America and Mexico and the tent shelter being offered is probably way better than anywhere else they stayed along with way.

When so many are coming with an expectation that the US owes them something, it doesn't bode well for everyone else here.

Thanks for recommending the episode. Those people are something!