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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is why cub scouts is going out of fashion.  Declining membership every year.  It is just too much for families and no village.[/quote]

Oh please, you don't need a "village" to do scouts, you need a parent. And this kid apparently has 2 but 1 is an enormous dud.

I mean it's fine to choose a different activity but we are in scouts and there is nothing onerous about it. Camping is an optional weekend activity for which yes parents are needed for younger kids. In ours it's usually the whole family that comes.[/quote]

Why do you need one parent per child in Boy Scouts? In Girl Scouts, the ratios go up as the girls get older, but even at the youngest ages, it's 6 kids per one adult, even for overnight camping. I've never been on a Girl Scouts camping trip.[/quote]

Because they had a major sex abuse scandal, obviously.  But still, 6 kids per adult at the youngest ages for a Girl Scout camping trip sounds rough to me. [/quote]
My daughters went camping starting in first grade and there were 4 adults for 10 girls. It's usually the troop leaders plus a few extra volunteers, but never one to one, which seems like excess. Dads are allowed to go camping, too, as long as they are background checked and have a separate place to sleep and separate bathroom. I'm not that familiar with Boy Scouts, but I believe they're much larger than Girl Scouts, right? So maybe that's why? Because they don't know each other as well as in the small Girl Scout troops? I have no idea, just guessing.[/quote]

I’m a volunteer in both organizations.  It’s just a totally different ethos.  GS historically tried to foster independence in girls but helping them to do things outside the family, as historically girls were really stuck doing stuff within the family.  BSA is more about developing a specific civic model of boy/man (which is why it has all the required stuff like duty to god, etc.) and family camping is part of that.  
But also PP was a little misleading about the GE ratios — there is a minimum of 2 adults at any time so if you took 6 1st graders camping, you would need at least 2 adults.  With 12 camping, I think you need 3, and with 18, I think you need 4. There is a chart for the safety ratios and it depends both on the age and what you are doing (meeting or field trip or overnight).  [/quote]

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