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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]If we limit housing options that aren’t $2M+ new builds, people cry that the county is losing families with young kids. But if we support new housing, including multi-family dwellings, people cry that the schools will be overcrowded. Which is it? There are ways to make it easier for families with young kids to live in Arlington county, but residents fight it any chance they get.

Let’s say the quiet part out loud. What many residents want are families that can afford $2M+ houses and young adults living in condos or apartments who pay taxes but don’t have kids. I suppose families with young kids crowded into apartments in South Arlington are ok as long as people north of Langston Blvd. don’t have to think about them. [/quote]

The young families are leaving for single family homes with yards. Neither the $2M new builds or the missing middle six family units will change that [/quote]
Totally agree.  Missing middle isn't going to help keep young families in Arlington. They don't want to live in a 6-plex 2 bedroom condo with no yard and not enough parking for $1.5m.  They'll go to Fairfax for a SFH.[/quote]

Most MM won’t be 6-plex. MANY families live in THs/duplexes.

Move this thread to political. Or delete it. Too much misinformation. [/quote]
Only 15% of approved MM permits are for duplexes, while about 50% of permits are for 4-6 unit buildings with the most of those being 6 units.

Overall, the greatest number of MM permits are for 6 unit buildings (about 37%).[/quote]

[b]Most of the approved (and pending) projects are duplex/THs/semi-detached. [/b]
https://www.arlingtonva.us/Government/Programs/Building/Permits/EHO/Tracker

There are a limited number of large lots so as time goes on the average # units/building will go down. 
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WRONG.  The percentages I posted are taken from the approved permits on the county site that you linked.  Only 15% of approved permits are for duplexes.  About 50% of permits are for 4-6 plexes.[/quote]

I'm right. Look at the link.

There are 14 duplex/TH/semi-detached approved projects. And 13 MF (10 6-plex). 14 > 13

10 D/T/S are proposed and 8 MF. 10 > 8

I'll be waiting patiently for your apology.  :lol: [/quote]
I'm not wrong.  Five out of 27 approved permits are for duplexes.  Thirteen out of 27 approved projects are for 4-6 plexes.  [/quote]

OK. And there are also townhouses and semi-detached homes...

First, I said [i]"Most MM won’t be 6-plex. MANY families live in THs/duplexes."[/i]

Then, I said: [i]"Most of the approved (and pending) projects are duplex/THs/semi-detached." [/i]

Both are 100% accurate according to the tracker.

14 > 13 approved
10 > 8 under review

Patiently waiting here... 
[/quote]The largest category of housing being built under MM is a 6 unit multi family building.  That's the single most popular option.[/quote]

A plurality isn’t a majority.

Again: 
>Many families live in THs/duplexes.
>Most MM won’t be 6-plex. 
>Most of the approved (and pending) projects are duplex/THs/semi-detached. 
[/quote]You're lumping together 3-plexes with duplexes.  I have serious doubts that young families are going to want to live in what MM is calling a 3 unit townhouse.  The lots for these are tiny with no yards and aren't what people think of as a typical townhouse in Arlington.  Families will choose Fairfax over these.

Be as pedantic as you want, but the vast majority of MM housing isnt anything a family would choose.  [/quote]

You’re mad because you misread what I wrote. I very clearly said THs/duplexes from the start.

Families all over the world, and even right here in Arlington, live in smaller THs/duplexes. 
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Families live in townhouses with an infant and then move. We lived in a townhouse complex with kids — they ALL left us behind.

All over the world doesn’t matter,  and in Arlington being the “townhouse” family is nightmare for playdates — no one wants to deal with the parking and kids are bored with zero yard space. Now a townhouse community with nice playground and pool, maybe nice but none of those here with MM. [/quote]

Sounds like THs can be great first homes for young families. Great way to start building equity for a future home purchase. Just like you and your neighbors all did. [/quote] The whole article is about young families leaving Arlington, likely when they want a SFH with a yard and more space.  MM doesn't fill that gap.  If anything those less expensive homes are being purchased by developers to be turned into 4 and 6 plexes.[/quote]

Exactly the supply of cheaper fixer uppers has gone to zero. [/quote]

And you think that happened in response to MM/EHO? Could you explain what timeline you're looking at and give a $ figure for what counts as a "cheaper fixer-upper"? Because it's been happening on my street for 20 years. [/quote]

I know teardowns have been happening in many parts of Arlington for many years, but I do feel like there are some neighborhoods where it has taken longer. I live in Waverly Hills and moved there in 2007.  On my block, we just had our first actual teardown. But since I have lived there, there have been 5 houses that have added on additions onto the original 1930s house (including my own).  The same is true for many of the houses around us since we have lived there.  Just in the past 3-4 years have the teardowns started.  Maybe that's because the price for buying an original non-renovated house is now about $900,000.  Also, those who were able to renovate in the past 5 years usually paid much less since they bought the house 10+ years ago.  It's hard to do that now when a buyer has to pay almost a million to begin with.[/quote]

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