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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Most folks with DCUM. Do not believe in anything fun. The only fun they have is driving a sensible Prius to Trader Joe's! Of course while listening to NPR!![/quote]

:lol:  :lol:  I got my wrangler as I was tired of boring sensible SUV's.. [/quote]

PP here.  I am not pro or anti Wrangler.  I am just  [b]looking for rational, factual, supportable reasons to get one for my new driver.[/b]  Serioulsy looking.  This thread has been very helpful with that, and only a few buttheads spouting nonsense/ad hominem attacks.  Thanks for all of the responses.  [/quote]

Other than buying your new driver one for fun, there are no rational reasons.  They are expensive, have poor reliability rankings, have limited storage capacity, poor mileage and below average safety ratings.  So if you are making an informed decision and not going by anecdotal replies here, you are only buying a Jeep because its fun - and you probably enjoy the idea of your kids being very happy with you.  Seems that simple.  [/quote]

This pretty much nails it. A Jeep is a princess purchase. They're uncomfortable, unreliable, and aren't even the best 4WD at that price point. They're a canvas for a "don't tread on me" or "silly boys, girls like jeeps too" license plate frame. The storage is awful and the interior feels smaller than it should. I'd happily get rid of ours except it's paid for and we don't drive it more than a few hundred miles a month. But it's fun and that's okay. [b]Just make sure your driver understands how to get the most out of 4WD [/b]and has solid roadside assistance coverage. [/quote]

My first of two Jeeps was a 2-door wrangler sport, which I lifted and got bigger than stock all terrain tires (it was my late 20's toy second car), and it was surprisingly bad in the snow.  It would fish tail and slide around pretty easily... my second stock Jeep Rubicon did better in the snow, but still wasn't nearly as confidence inspiring as my Ford SUV was in the snow.  I always assumed the 2-door Jeeps weren't great in the snow because of their lighter weight and the short wheelbase.  I knew a couple of Jeep owners that swapped out for snow tires each winter for the same reason.  I only bring this up because I think some people assume 4WD = great in snow.  And that wasn't my experience.[/quote]

For sure! You have to know when to air down, when to use 4H vs 4L, etc. Half the cars getting towed off the sand in Corolla are Jeeps that people assumed would be great on sand. [/quote]

Some Jeeps have mud tires on them. Mud tires are terrible in snow. When we had 30 to 40 inches of snow in Western Loudoun a few years back. I had just put a fresh set of BF Goodrich KO2s. ( Mountain and Snowflake symbol rated) Aired down to 12 psi and let it rip. Kept hitting it and staying on the Rev limiter. After a couple of tries I made it out without getting stuck!!

Ours has 220,000 on it. I'd have no problem hopping in it today and driving cross country.  Not much to break on a Wrangler and they are designed to be able to be fixed on the side of a trail.  Easy to work on and parts are easily available along with being cheap. The 3.8 was used in lots of minivans and Chargers. Same with the 2012 to present 3.6 V6. Parts are available anywhere.  Unlike many other vehicles today. 
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