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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes this is what came out of it. She was peppy and a good captain otherwise so it was a shame. I also finally understood why born again christians can be toxic. They feel empowered that their sins have been wiped away and are too driven by God controlling them anew to realize they have to do the hard work of actually fixing their toxic behaviors. [/quote]

Born again Christians don’t think God “controls them.” People can be toxic no matter their religion, or lack of religion.

Toxic behavior is a different than sin. My brother in law is an atheist and he’s extremely toxic. He has zero care or regard for the feelings and opinions of other people to the point he’s basically a loner and has no friends. [/quote]

Agreed - Anyone can be toxic, with or without religion.  It's a personality trait available to all.

Born again Christians don't think that God controls them in the sense that they are robots for God.  They believe that God is guiding them.

Funny - my brother-in-law is a born-again Christian, who is just as much a pain in the a_ _ as he was before he was saved.  Now he invokes Jesus more.[/quote]

Born again Christians don’t think God guides them. Where are you getting your information on born again Christians?[/quote]

I learned in Sunday school that God guides his followers.   I'm not born again, but figure god guides all his followers.    Here's a whole website Bible verses about god's guidance https://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/bible-verses-about-guidance/ [/quote]

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