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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Veterinarian lady you are crazy misogynist. There was no need to bring up the value of the animal going through treatment other than to imply that women who undergo fertility treatment are inferior.

I can’t believe you’re saying with a straight face that daily sex work has no harm quotient. I think sex work should be legal but there is a lot of data that sex work is not good for women. And while pregnancy can be dangerous (I almost died twice and that was after puking my guts up for 9 months and crippling SPD pain), the idea that you could say with a straight face that pregnancy is objectively more harmful than a life of sex work is patently ludicrous.

I am also very confused by why you keep bringing up India. Op did not say she was going to hire someone from India and underpay them (this would actually be very unwise when factoring in some tricky US immigration issues) and abuse them. You have inserted “surrogates are abused in India” as some random straw man that is entirely different from the conversation we’re having. No one is saying surrogates can’t be abused in countries where there are not rules and regulations to protect them.[/quote]

Someone upthread said as long as it's legal then people can't be exploited. That's why I brought up India b.c it's patently not true there.[/quote]

I said if it is legal then it is possible to build legal safeguards to protect people and that is preferable to it being illegal and fully in the black market. I did not say that it was not possible for there to be a country where it is legal and where women are abused. Of course that is possible.[/quote]

I still think that if money changes hands, it's at its core exploitation to rent another probably poorer person's body and make them risk death b.c you want a baby. Other jobs that are risky are necessary on some level- Rooves and electrical lines are crucial for society.

I hate to tell you- but having your own biological babies are optional. And I say this as someone who really wanted multiple children her whole life.

And a vanity or laziness motivation is just disgusting morally.

I guess if you don't then we will just have to agree to disagree.[/quote]

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