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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Maybe it's me, but feels like there are one or more men's right activists in this thread with all the references to men being bamboozled, etc. When they became dads did they just think it was going to be all shits and giggles? [/quote] It’s just you. How is this a men’s rights issue anyway?[/quote] No, it’s not just that poster. I recognize the language of the men’s rights activists. I also note that OP never said she wouldn’t pay anything. She just asked what to do about her child’s father refusing to pay anything. I’ve known deadbeat dads who wanted their ex-BILs and ex-SILs to pay for their kids education b/c they’ve decided that their ex-in-laws have money and should pay. There are more entitled deadbeats out there than people realize. [/quote] You are not a deadbeat for not paying for college. Many married, divorced and single parents don't pay because they cannot afford it or don't want to. This is not a deadbeat situation A deadbeat is when a parent is ordered to pay child support and they don't pay it. Anything over age 18/after graduation from college is voluntary. OP isn't giving any real information about the entire situation including incomes, other responsibilities, how much he is paying in support and extra's, how much each parent can afford/willing to pay and how much the child will pay (summer earnings). She is also refusing to pay from the minimum information provided. She expected financial aid, they didn't get it and is now demanding that Dad fully pay. We don't know Dad's side. [/quote] Yes, we DK the dad's side, but the dad SHOULD HAVE TOLD HIS DAUGHTER HE WASN'T GOING TO PAY FOR COLLEGE [b]WAY BEFORE[/b] HE SIGNED THE FAFSA FORM AND, IF NOT THEN, DEFINITELY WHEN HE SIGNED IT A FEW MONTHS AGO. That's part of being a parent, having hard conversations with your kid. Yes, he is not obligated to pay but any parent worth their salt should have told the kid once they saw the kid was on a college track about what they would/not handle for college. The dad owed that to the kid.[/quote] Filling out the FAFSA doesn’t obligate someone to pay for any school. It gets sent to whatever schools are entered. We sent it to 15 once. I would argue, in fact filling out the FAFSA is making it clear the parent CANT AFFORD that school, otherwise they wouldn’t be asking for aid. [/quote] You are BEYOND DENSE, BEYOND DENSE. Nowhere above did I write "filling out the FAFSA obligates the father to pay for school." What I wrote is that the child was OWED a conversation about what the dad would/not provide for college. Some parents might use completion of the FAFSA form to clarify what they see as their obligations. A more forwarding thinking parent would have had the conversation once they saw that their child was an exceptional student and may want to pursue an undergrad degree at an Ivy. If this student got into Cornell, then that possibility was probably fairly clear by the start of HS, if not earlier. Also, FAFSA indicates the estimated family contribution (EFC). Unless the dad is wholly, wholly ignorant of how federal aid works, there is a strong possibility that the kid's EFC was not going to be zero. When I was in college long ago, believe the EFC was a minimum $500. There should now be a "parental contribution" for all kids headed to college in which the parent explains what, if anything, they will be paying for college NO LATER than signing the FAFSA form, preferably in middle school/start of HS.[/quote]
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