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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m in a similar situation as OP in that there does not appear to be a real chance for grandchildren from my two kids. One is gay and has expressed a desire to be childfree when married; the other is profoundly disabled. It saddens me because DH and I would have loved to be involved grandparents. It doesn’t mean there aren’t meaningful and enjoyable activities to fill our days but the loss is still a loss. [/quote]

It’s not a loss when it never existed. [/quote]

Sure it is.  People mourn that they cannot have children.  [/quote]

But it’s not a loss per se. [/quote]

Yes, it is a loss.
In this thread,  the issue is
 an actual loss of family, which is made clear, so your argument is irrelevant here.

But, women who cannot have children are experiencing a loss of having children. That is a loss. 
Let's look at your suggestion  outside 
of this paradigm:
1. Women also lose opportunities in the workplace to men, hindering their  career, as well as equal pay. Are you suggesting  that they didn't lose something?
2.  We see people living in poverty.  If they've never had opportunity or money, is it not  a loss because  they never had these resources?

Your argument makes little sense regarding of whatever context you put it in. 
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So anything you cannot have in life is a loss as opposed to losing something you actually had? So a 1m salary, 5m in the lottery, becoming the president, I can mourn all of these? And before you say any of this is ridiculous, who are you to determine that?[/quote]

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