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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's a country of OLD PEOPLE.  Maybe it's time to die: peacefully, at home.

Who really wants their last gasp to be on a respirator in a hospital bed anyway?

You have to die eventually.  Do it surrounded by family.[/quote]

It's not just old people who are dying.  But let them eat cake, right Trumpsters?[/quote]

Most of the younger people who have died from this had other underlying conditions. And even at this it is still mostly old people dying on that manner. Average age reports of over 80. Very very few healthy young people with no other underlying conditions have died from this. [/quote]
You know people with underlying conditions can hear you, right?[/quote]

Sure, the point is not to diminish the deaths. It is that the scare factor is greatly exaggerated. If we didn’t have every tom, dick and harry with a minor cough running to hospitals thinking they’re going to die, they might be better positioned to serve the elderly and those with underlying conditions who are actually at threat from this virus.[/quote]

"Everyone dies alone"

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-everyone-dies-alone-heartbreak-at-the-italian-hospital-on-the-brink-of-collapse-11961130[/quote]

If that video doesn't scare you, PP above, then you are not human.[/quote]

The excess mortality rate for many of the “hardest hit” countries in Europe show negligible if any uptick in deaths vis a vis similar periods in previous years. We just didn’t have video and imagery blasts from hospitals during those periods. This is a sad situation, for sure. But it’s maddening that the hype has made it much much worse than it needed to be and contributed to overwhelming some hospital systems.[/quote]

so you just don't care that people are being turned away from hospitals because there aren't enough beds.  And those beds are NOT being taken by people with a cough.  The doctors would not allow that.  It is a problem when the number of people who need ventilators is larger than then number available.  How can you not see this?[/quote]

I do. Italy is particularly bad for a number of reasons: average age, tactile culture, air pollution and attendant respiratory problems. That being said, there is still no evidence that “more people than usual” are dying because of this in Italy. Much of the same holds for Wuhan and Iran. You cannot apply that to the rest of the world. [b]Why is the media not using Germany as a benchmark?[/b][/quote]

Because German deaths are the epitome of fake news.  Germany does not do post mortem testing and routinely attributes deaths to an underlying condition instead of coronavirus.

Every time a Reddit post appears on Germany, all the Germans pile in about how misleading their death statistics are.

Switzerland is very similar.  It has the second highest per capita rate in the world after Italy (excluding the tiny nation states) and the death rate is also relatively low (but not as low as Germany).  It also has a very deliberate policy of prioritizing treatment of Swiss nationals over foreign legal residents despite being home to several international organizations, as well as large pharmaceutical companies that have multinational work forces.[/quote]

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