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Reply to "The sky is falling in the DMV"
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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The main issue is the lack of a strong middle class. In the DMV and other strong economic areas we are becoming a society of wealthy high educated members served by a large lower class. Automation and technology has taken a hammer to entry level middle class jobs, sales and other previously well paying changes work that didn't require huge amounts of edUcation or skills. Our school systems are starting to reflect these income gaps. The amount of immigration hasn't changed that much over time.[/quote] No the proportion of poor people is increasing The proportion of people who won't parent properly and/or care about education is increasing We need to stop funneling everyone into college tracks. There are plenty of middle class jobs that are still available the don't involve going to a 4 year degree problem. [/quote] THIS[/quote] Gross. So these beliefs are exactly the problem. They led to extreme bias in education where low income children and children of color were far less likely to be challenged or accelerated even when their test scores and abilities merited it. [/quote] DP: Sweetheart, the world needs plumbers. That’s not a bad thing. Skilled trades are nothing to be ashamed of. I find your classism to be “gross”.[/quote] We should discuss the fact that truly poor kids can’t even access vocational programs to become plumbers or electricians. A friend paid for the apprenticeship program for her son and it was $8K.[/quote] In most schools systems, kids are not allowed into the vocational programs unless they are completing their other classes successfully and will graduate on time. Skilled trades are nothing to mess around with and you still need a high degree of reading competency as well as basic algebra and geometry skills. Fro example, having worked in construction it is embarrassing when carpenters can't calculate measurements or angles for roof framing. The old "strong back and weak mind" joke no longer applies. Cheap immigrant labor does all the "bitch" work like painting, hauling concrete, lumber, cleaning up, etc. Skilled labor needs serious math and reading skills. The wealthiest people I know are electricians who started their own companies and now have net worth of over $20 million.[/quote]
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