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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Assuming that either of you is being sincere - what would turn you from voting from Clinton to voting for Trump? I am asking this sincerely. To me he is an unmitigated disaster, a wannabe Duterte-type without the smarts to actually be Duterte. What is the appeal to someone who previously didn't fall for his strong man schtick?

(Please don't say illegals or wall.)[/quote]

Please read this whole thread --- plenty of good arguments that have nothing to do with illegals or the wall.[/quote]

I am specifically asking the PPs who say they did not vote for him in 2016, why they would vote for him this time. The thread is mostly derpy derping. Not genuine conversation.[/quote]

This is one of the most thoughtful and civilized threads I have seen on dcum in a while. Perhaps you have forgotten the feel of "genuine conversation"?

In any case, as one of the posters in question, here's my specific reason. Back in 2016 I had no idea what he would actually do in the WH. Would the economy implode? Would he try to deport 10 million immigrants? Would he start a random war with who knows why? By now, in 2019, we have a pretty good sense that he's more capable than expected (not nicer or smarter, just more capable). The economy is great, lower violent crime rates, pretty sensible immigration and security policies, ISIS destroyed, renegotiating harmful trade deals with Mexico and China.[/quote]

-The economy was great when Obama left office too;
-rates of violent crime have been dropping steadily since the '90's and were actually lowest in 2014: https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/
-what immigration and security policies are you referring to? Nothing has been passed into law;
-ISIS destroyed - I'll give him credit for this, but the fight has just moved - google jihadists in West Africa, and we're going to have to admit defeat in Afghanistan soon and hand it to the Taliban (which really isn't Trump's fault, but might happen on his watch);
-Trump has had to authorize ~$28 billion in bailout aid (taxpayer money) to farmers due to his trade war; we'll see if he gets the USMCA ratified.

I have to say that this thread has been a good discussion.  My main objection to Trump is his continued assault on our institutions and people are believing it - that somehow the FBI, IC, judges, are all crooked, that you can't trust the results of elections or that there's massive fraud.  This is dangerous.

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What evidence is there to support your lies? Zip. SOME people in office ARE crooked, and you know it. As for the elections, Hillary and you Lefties pushed the massive Trump Russia collusion, not Trump, you lying fool. Please try again.[/quote]

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