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My family traces their roots in the US back to the 1700s (unruly Scots Irish indentured servants) and have fought in every US war (+ Vietnam) since the Revolutionary War. I don't say the pledge. I tell my child that it is her decision of conscience and make sure she knows that according to the Supreme Court she cannot be forced to participate or punished for not participating. I think the words of the Pledge are false and the ritual of pledging is not in keeping with the principles upon which this country was founded. Why should a recent immigrant be held to a higher standard? A key part being a US citizen is the right to express disagreement with our government.[/quote]

I can trace my roots back to 1947 when my family came over from Europe. My dad was in WW2 (as a new US citizen).  They would disagree with you.  Jingoism aside, some form of dedication to one's country is important in ensuring there's progress.

What flaws can you find in that one sentence?  one nation?  indivisible?  with liberty and justice for all?  Or has identify politics spoiled the sentiment behind the pledge?[/quote]

No real flaws in the sentence, just nothing solid, that's it.

[b]The real flaws are the practice of asking people to repeatedly say the samething, and creating an environment so that no doing so could be looked down at[/b].
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Again, no one is required to stand if they don't want to. THe flaw is that those who don't want to participate in it don't want to "feel" left out hence the system has to turn around to cater to their feelings. Don't do it if you don't want to and stand by that decision with confidence. Really, no one cares if you're standing or not. [/quote]

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