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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It seems like the definition of a pelvic exam involves some evaluation for diagnostic or treatment purposes. If it's not done for those reasons, isn't that the same thing as some creep in any other non-medical setting doing the same thing to a woman, which would be rape?

That man may also have an MD. And he might commit the crime in his medical practice office. And he might have her consent to preform another procedure or to drug her. What's to stop him from saying that he deemed it "necessary"? It seems to me to be the same thing. (In fact, didn't something similar happen recently with some sort of sports team, maybe gymnastics??)

Can anyone with a legal background explain the difference between a "pelvic exam" that is not performed for the reason of actually diagnosing or treating the patient and "rape"? Why are things not legally crimes if they're committed during business hours in a reputable medical institution? And that's even if the woman has previously consented to being examined at all by med students, which I'm sure the vast majority do/would not if they'd been explicitly asked and/or aware of what they were signing.[/quote]

exactly, how is this not rape[/quote]

This is outrageous, and clearly begun when medicine was still a male-dominated profession.  If you don't do this to a woman when she's awake, you KNOW why you aren't doing it when she's awake.  She'd kill you -- she'd sue you for all you're worth.  And like a true cowardly act, it's done when a woman is at her most helpless, unconscious  and at your mercy.  Imagine trying to get a woman to agree to being looked at by a train of medical students and even residents, and being okay with it.  How many women would agree to this sort of invasion?!

Gee, I wonder if they avoid treating known female lawyers in this way?

I think I know the answer.

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