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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’m a Liberal and I want everyone to be given an ID that could be used for voting if you don’t have a drivers license or state ID card, or a passport. I think it would be a great thing for society. However:
1) if you don’t already have an ID, chances are you’re probably pretty poor on the margins of society. So the ID needs to be given for free. 
2) voter ID’s are already free in some states, but the underlying documentation like a birth certificate isn’t free and can be difficult for people to get. So a person who doesn’t have that documentation needs to be provided with free legal aid to get it. 
3) people need to be able to get it at the places they usually frequent in their own neighborhoods - like grocery stores, churches, K-12 schools and universities, etc. No making inner-city granny or single mom spend their whole day taking 3 buses across town to get to a DMV that’s only open 9-5 during the week. They need to be able to get these ID’s printed at local places. [/quote]
And this is why IDs are inherently discriminatory (and I know you already know these points): 
1) they’re not free
2) birth certificates or other proof can be difficult to get
3) the GOP makes sure to close these reachable offices for maximum difficulty[/quote]

https://www.dot.nd.gov/divisions/driverslicense/docs/Drivers%20Lic%20Sites.pdf

There are EIGHT locations that are open more than twice per month.  There are EIGHT locations that are only open 1 day per month.  Please explain to me how this makes it easier for ND residents to vote.  It doesn’t, simple as that.  And if you don’t have the proper paperwork on that one day per month?[/quote]
Get the right paperwork on that ONE day of the month. ND isn’t asking you to invent cold fusion, they’re saying the right to vote is precious and they are going to protect it from fraud. So get your paperwork in order and go register. [/quote]

I’m white, female, and I have to work.  When I had to change my license (and voter registration), I went to the DOT hours (please notice that, not only can it be only once or twice per month, it’s not open all day...).  I thought I had all my paperwork.  I had my passport, my license from another state, two things listed on the website as valid to prove residency.  Except both went to the post office box, and while they needed the physical address for internal use, the physical address never appeared on my paperwork.  I was there before it opened, sent away two hours later.  Due to my job and my amazing former employer, I had the ability to drive back to the house, search around for 45 minutes to try to find something with the physical address.  It didn’t exist!  I ended up contacting the companies and asking for something in writing stating the physical address, but it didn’t come in bill form.  So, when I drove 3 hours to Minot to one of the only offices that is open more than 2 days per month, it was rejected again.  It took me 2 months to be able to get paperwork to satisfy DOT and be able to get in to the office.  Most people don’t have the same type of flexible schedule I had with that job, nor do they have an employer-provided vehicle with unlimited gas.  I had a contract that specified that I must reside in North Dakota (and had an address), but that wasn’t acceptable.  I understand that there are tons of transient workers due to the fracking; the barriers to changing either a license or voter registration are ridiculous.

The biggest issue (for all states) is usually proving residency.  If someone moves in with a relative or lives in employer-provided housing, trying to prove residency is a nightmare.  People without internet access may not realize how much paperwork they need.  [/quote]

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