Anonymous wrote:Classic Liberal racism. They can only judge a man by the color of his skin, not the corruption of his ‘service’.

On top of the all harm Gillum has done in Florida... now this:


http://tallahasseereports.com/2018/10/21/florida-governor-candidate-andrew-gillums-family-under-investigation-may-have-engaged-in-voter-fraud/

But from the liberal parakeets it’s rac rac rac racism...

Idiots.

Anonymous wrote:Classic Liberal racism. They can only judge a man by the color of his skin, not the corruption of his ‘service’.

On top of the all harm Gillum has done in Florida... now this:


http://tallahasseereports.com/2018/10/21/florida-governor-candidate-andrew-gillums-family-under-investigation-may-have-engaged-in-voter-fraud/

But from the liberal parakeets it’s rac rac rac racism...

Idiots.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Liberal and I want everyone to be given an ID that could be used for voting if you don’t have a drivers license or state ID card, or a passport. I think it would be a great thing for society. However:
1) if you don’t already have an ID, chances are you’re probably pretty poor on the margins of society. So the ID needs to be given for free.
2) voter ID’s are already free in some states, but the underlying documentation like a birth certificate isn’t free and can be difficult for people to get. So a person who doesn’t have that documentation needs to be provided with free legal aid to get it.
3) people need to be able to get it at the places they usually frequent in their own neighborhoods - like grocery stores, churches, K-12 schools and universities, etc. No making inner-city granny or single mom spend their whole day taking 3 buses across town to get to a DMV that’s only open 9-5 during the week. They need to be able to get these ID’s printed at local places.

And this is why IDs are inherently discriminatory (and I know you already know these points):
1) they’re not free
2) birth certificates or other proof can be difficult to get
3) the GOP makes sure to close these reachable offices for maximum difficulty

https://www.dot.nd.gov/divisions/driverslicense/docs/Drivers%20Lic%20Sites.pdf

There are EIGHT locations that are open more than twice per month. There are EIGHT locations that are only open 1 day per month. Please explain to me how this makes it easier for ND residents to vote. It doesn’t, simple as that. And if you don’t have the proper paperwork on that one day per month?

Get the right paperwork on that ONE day of the month. ND isn’t asking you to invent cold fusion, they’re saying the right to vote is precious and they are going to protect it from fraud. So get your paperwork in order and go register.

The right to vote in the US is fundamental and it should be as easy as possible to be on the rolls. Not voting is a choice. One should not be purged for not voting. Agree?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Liberal and I want everyone to be given an ID that could be used for voting if you don’t have a drivers license or state ID card, or a passport. I think it would be a great thing for society. However:
1) if you don’t already have an ID, chances are you’re probably pretty poor on the margins of society. So the ID needs to be given for free.
2) voter ID’s are already free in some states, but the underlying documentation like a birth certificate isn’t free and can be difficult for people to get. So a person who doesn’t have that documentation needs to be provided with free legal aid to get it.
3) people need to be able to get it at the places they usually frequent in their own neighborhoods - like grocery stores, churches, K-12 schools and universities, etc. No making inner-city granny or single mom spend their whole day taking 3 buses across town to get to a DMV that’s only open 9-5 during the week. They need to be able to get these ID’s printed at local places.

And this is why IDs are inherently discriminatory (and I know you already know these points):
1) they’re not free
2) birth certificates or other proof can be difficult to get
3) the GOP makes sure to close these reachable offices for maximum difficulty

https://www.dot.nd.gov/divisions/driverslicense/docs/Drivers%20Lic%20Sites.pdf

There are EIGHT locations that are open more than twice per month. There are EIGHT locations that are only open 1 day per month. Please explain to me how this makes it easier for ND residents to vote. It doesn’t, simple as that. And if you don’t have the proper paperwork on that one day per month?

Get the right paperwork on that ONE day of the month. ND isn’t asking you to invent cold fusion, they’re saying the right to vote is precious and they are going to protect it from fraud. So get your paperwork in order and go register.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Liberal and I want everyone to be given an ID that could be used for voting if you don’t have a drivers license or state ID card, or a passport. I think it would be a great thing for society. However:
1) if you don’t already have an ID, chances are you’re probably pretty poor on the margins of society. So the ID needs to be given for free.
2) voter ID’s are already free in some states, but the underlying documentation like a birth certificate isn’t free and can be difficult for people to get. So a person who doesn’t have that documentation needs to be provided with free legal aid to get it.
3) people need to be able to get it at the places they usually frequent in their own neighborhoods - like grocery stores, churches, K-12 schools and universities, etc. No making inner-city granny or single mom spend their whole day taking 3 buses across town to get to a DMV that’s only open 9-5 during the week. They need to be able to get these ID’s printed at local places.

And this is why IDs are inherently discriminatory (and I know you already know these points):
1) they’re not free
2) birth certificates or other proof can be difficult to get
3) the GOP makes sure to close these reachable offices for maximum difficulty

https://www.dot.nd.gov/divisions/driverslicense/docs/Drivers%20Lic%20Sites.pdf

There are EIGHT locations that are open more than twice per month. There are EIGHT locations that are only open 1 day per month. Please explain to me how this makes it easier for ND residents to vote. It doesn’t, simple as that. And if you don’t have the proper paperwork on that one day per month?

Get the right paperwork on that ONE day of the month. ND isn’t asking you to invent cold fusion, they’re saying the right to vote is precious and they are going to protect it from fraud. So get your paperwork in order and go register.

I’m white, female, and I have to work. When I had to change my license (and voter registration), I went to the DOT hours (please notice that, not only can it be only once or twice per month, it’s not open all day...). I thought I had all my paperwork. I had my passport, my license from another state, two things listed on the website as valid to prove residency. Except both went to the post office box, and while they needed the physical address for internal use, the physical address never appeared on my paperwork. I was there before it opened, sent away two hours later. Due to my job and my amazing former employer, I had the ability to drive back to the house, search around for 45 minutes to try to find something with the physical address. It didn’t exist! I ended up contacting the companies and asking for something in writing stating the physical address, but it didn’t come in bill form. So, when I drove 3 hours to Minot to one of the only offices that is open more than 2 days per month, it was rejected again. It took me 2 months to be able to get paperwork to satisfy DOT and be able to get in to the office. Most people don’t have the same type of flexible schedule I had with that job, nor do they have an employer-provided vehicle with unlimited gas. I had a contract that specified that I must reside in North Dakota (and had an address), but that wasn’t acceptable. I understand that there are tons of transient workers due to the fracking; the barriers to changing either a license or voter registration are ridiculous.

The biggest issue (for all states) is usually proving residency. If someone moves in with a relative or lives in employer-provided housing, trying to prove residency is a nightmare. People without internet access may not realize how much paperwork they need.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Liberal and I want everyone to be given an ID that could be used for voting if you don’t have a drivers license or state ID card, or a passport. I think it would be a great thing for society. However:
1) if you don’t already have an ID, chances are you’re probably pretty poor on the margins of society. So the ID needs to be given for free.
2) voter ID’s are already free in some states, but the underlying documentation like a birth certificate isn’t free and can be difficult for people to get. So a person who doesn’t have that documentation needs to be provided with free legal aid to get it.
3) people need to be able to get it at the places they usually frequent in their own neighborhoods - like grocery stores, churches, K-12 schools and universities, etc. No making inner-city granny or single mom spend their whole day taking 3 buses across town to get to a DMV that’s only open 9-5 during the week. They need to be able to get these ID’s printed at local places.

And this is why IDs are inherently discriminatory (and I know you already know these points):
1) they’re not free
2) birth certificates or other proof can be difficult to get
3) the GOP makes sure to close these reachable offices for maximum difficulty

https://www.dot.nd.gov/divisions/driverslicense/docs/Drivers%20Lic%20Sites.pdf

There are EIGHT locations that are open more than twice per month. There are EIGHT locations that are only open 1 day per month. Please explain to me how this makes it easier for ND residents to vote. It doesn’t, simple as that. And if you don’t have the proper paperwork on that one day per month?

Get the right paperwork on that ONE day of the month. ND isn’t asking you to invent cold fusion, they’re saying the right to vote is precious and they are going to protect it from fraud. So get your paperwork in order and go register.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Liberal and I want everyone to be given an ID that could be used for voting if you don’t have a drivers license or state ID card, or a passport. I think it would be a great thing for society. However:
1) if you don’t already have an ID, chances are you’re probably pretty poor on the margins of society. So the ID needs to be given for free.
2) voter ID’s are already free in some states, but the underlying documentation like a birth certificate isn’t free and can be difficult for people to get. So a person who doesn’t have that documentation needs to be provided with free legal aid to get it.
3) people need to be able to get it at the places they usually frequent in their own neighborhoods - like grocery stores, churches, K-12 schools and universities, etc. No making inner-city granny or single mom spend their whole day taking 3 buses across town to get to a DMV that’s only open 9-5 during the week. They need to be able to get these ID’s printed at local places.

And this is why IDs are inherently discriminatory (and I know you already know these points):
1) they’re not free
2) birth certificates or other proof can be difficult to get
3) the GOP makes sure to close these reachable offices for maximum difficulty

https://www.dot.nd.gov/divisions/driverslicense/docs/Drivers%20Lic%20Sites.pdf

There are EIGHT locations that are open more than twice per month. There are EIGHT locations that are only open 1 day per month. Please explain to me how this makes it easier for ND residents to vote. It doesn’t, simple as that. And if you don’t have the proper paperwork on that one day per month?

Get the right paperwork on that ONE day of the month. ND isn’t asking you to invent cold fusion, they’re saying the right to vote is precious and they are going to protect it from fraud. So get your paperwork in order and go register.

GFY

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Liberal and I want everyone to be given an ID that could be used for voting if you don’t have a drivers license or state ID card, or a passport. I think it would be a great thing for society. However:
1) if you don’t already have an ID, chances are you’re probably pretty poor on the margins of society. So the ID needs to be given for free.
2) voter ID’s are already free in some states, but the underlying documentation like a birth certificate isn’t free and can be difficult for people to get. So a person who doesn’t have that documentation needs to be provided with free legal aid to get it.
3) people need to be able to get it at the places they usually frequent in their own neighborhoods - like grocery stores, churches, K-12 schools and universities, etc. No making inner-city granny or single mom spend their whole day taking 3 buses across town to get to a DMV that’s only open 9-5 during the week. They need to be able to get these ID’s printed at local places.

And this is why IDs are inherently discriminatory (and I know you already know these points):
1) they’re not free
2) birth certificates or other proof can be difficult to get
3) the GOP makes sure to close these reachable offices for maximum difficulty

https://www.dot.nd.gov/divisions/driverslicense/docs/Drivers%20Lic%20Sites.pdf

There are EIGHT locations that are open more than twice per month. There are EIGHT locations that are only open 1 day per month. Please explain to me how this makes it easier for ND residents to vote. It doesn’t, simple as that. And if you don’t have the proper paperwork on that one day per month?

Get the right paperwork on that ONE day of the month. ND isn’t asking you to invent cold fusion, they’re saying the right to vote is precious and they are going to protect it from fraud. So get your paperwork in order and go register.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Liberal and I want everyone to be given an ID that could be used for voting if you don’t have a drivers license or state ID card, or a passport. I think it would be a great thing for society. However:
1) if you don’t already have an ID, chances are you’re probably pretty poor on the margins of society. So the ID needs to be given for free.
2) voter ID’s are already free in some states, but the underlying documentation like a birth certificate isn’t free and can be difficult for people to get. So a person who doesn’t have that documentation needs to be provided with free legal aid to get it.
3) people need to be able to get it at the places they usually frequent in their own neighborhoods - like grocery stores, churches, K-12 schools and universities, etc. No making inner-city granny or single mom spend their whole day taking 3 buses across town to get to a DMV that’s only open 9-5 during the week. They need to be able to get these ID’s printed at local places.

And this is why IDs are inherently discriminatory (and I know you already know these points):
1) they’re not free
2) birth certificates or other proof can be difficult to get
3) the GOP makes sure to close these reachable offices for maximum difficulty

https://www.dot.nd.gov/divisions/driverslicense/docs/Drivers%20Lic%20Sites.pdf

There are EIGHT locations that are open more than twice per month. There are EIGHT locations that are only open 1 day per month. Please explain to me how this makes it easier for ND residents to vote. It doesn’t, simple as that. And if you don’t have the proper paperwork on that one day per month?

Get the right paperwork on that ONE day of the month. ND isn’t asking you to invent cold fusion, they’re saying the right to vote is precious and they are going to protect it from fraud. So get your paperwork in order and go register.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Liberal and I want everyone to be given an ID that could be used for voting if you don’t have a drivers license or state ID card, or a passport. I think it would be a great thing for society. However:
1) if you don’t already have an ID, chances are you’re probably pretty poor on the margins of society. So the ID needs to be given for free.
2) voter ID’s are already free in some states, but the underlying documentation like a birth certificate isn’t free and can be difficult for people to get. So a person who doesn’t have that documentation needs to be provided with free legal aid to get it.
3) people need to be able to get it at the places they usually frequent in their own neighborhoods - like grocery stores, churches, K-12 schools and universities, etc. No making inner-city granny or single mom spend their whole day taking 3 buses across town to get to a DMV that’s only open 9-5 during the week. They need to be able to get these ID’s printed at local places.

And this is why IDs are inherently discriminatory (and I know you already know these points):
1) they’re not free
2) birth certificates or other proof can be difficult to get
3) the GOP makes sure to close these reachable offices for maximum difficulty

https://www.dot.nd.gov/divisions/driverslicense/docs/Drivers%20Lic%20Sites.pdf

There are EIGHT locations that are open more than twice per month. There are EIGHT locations that are only open 1 day per month. Please explain to me how this makes it easier for ND residents to vote. It doesn’t, simple as that. And if you don’t have the proper paperwork on that one day per month?

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Anonymous wrote:Why aren't these same people complaining about all the other things in ordinary life that require presenting ID?

How come no one is protesting showing ID to buy alcohol or cigarettes? Or prescription meds? Or to receive govt benefits?

How is it the *only* thing people get outraged about having to show ID for, is *voting*? Being required to show ID for all the other stuff is fine with them.

It really is a magical contradiction, isn't it?

Yup.

Anonymous wrote:Why aren't these same people complaining about all the other things in ordinary life that require presenting ID?

How come no one is protesting showing ID to buy alcohol or cigarettes? Or prescription meds? Or to receive govt benefits?

How is it the *only* thing people get outraged about having to show ID for, is *voting*? Being required to show ID for all the other stuff is fine with them.

It really is a magical contradiction, isn't it?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why aren't these same people complaining about all the other things in ordinary life that require presenting ID?

How come no one is protesting showing ID to buy alcohol or cigarettes? Or prescription meds? Or to receive govt benefits?

How is it the *only* thing people get outraged about having to show ID for, is *voting*? Being required to show ID for all the other stuff is fine with them.

It really is a magical contradiction, isn't it?

Are those things enshrined in our constitution as a right?

Just like free speech and gun ownership has responsibilities attached to them, so does voting.

The responsibility is to go vote. It's not for one group of citizens to do what they can to make it harder for other citizens to vote.

That's like saying that the responsibility of gun owners is to go shoot guns. For practice, maybe. But this is absolutely not all of their responsibility. They have a responsibility to follow gun laws, ensure the safe keeping of their guns, and to exercise all due caution in the handling of their guns.

The responsibility of a voter includes ensuring that he/she follow voting laws to remain eligible to vote.

When someone registers to vote and votes sporadically, the state should not just remove them. It raises a barrier to re-register, particularly when the registration process is altered and is cumbersome. For example, some counties have a central registration location that may only be accessible via car. As another example, the Florida online registration system was down all weekend. How is that fair?

Some people are also not notified that they are no longer registered.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Liberal and I want everyone to be given an ID that could be used for voting if you don’t have a drivers license or state ID card, or a passport. I think it would be a great thing for society. However:
1) if you don’t already have an ID, chances are you’re probably pretty poor on the margins of society. So the ID needs to be given for free.
2) voter ID’s are already free in some states, but the underlying documentation like a birth certificate isn’t free and can be difficult for people to get. So a person who doesn’t have that documentation needs to be provided with free legal aid to get it.
3) people need to be able to get it at the places they usually frequent in their own neighborhoods - like grocery stores, churches, K-12 schools and universities, etc. No making inner-city granny or single mom spend their whole day taking 3 buses across town to get to a DMV that’s only open 9-5 during the week. They need to be able to get these ID’s printed at local places.

And this is why IDs are inherently discriminatory (and I know you already know these points):
1) they’re not free
2) birth certificates or other proof can be difficult to get
3) the GOP makes sure to close these reachable offices for maximum difficulty