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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Dow all time high was hit Dec 4, 2024

S&P hit an all time high in Feb, has been middling since, was already at 6000 in Dec, 2024, and is only finally getting back to where it was after Trump crashed it

Dow all time high was Dec 20, 2024

We have had 6 months of Trump and are only now getting back to where he was after he led us through a roller coaster with tariff talk, then TACO-ing out.

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My 401k outperforms the Dow and S&P. What is so hard for people to understand? I’m at an all time high by a significant amount.[/quote]

*and still [b]far[/b] below where you could have/would have been if Trump hadn't effed with the market. Why is that so hard for YOU to understand?[/quote]

PS, I'm at an all time high too! But I also project where I [b]should be[/b] - and I'm behind, and yes, that's because of Trump.[/quote]

If you’re being honest you would calculate where you should be if Biden didn’t flatline investments for years rather than months.

Dow 11/5/21: 36,327

Dow 12/1/23: 36,245

The high during that period was 36,338.

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PP, you cherry picked the heck out of that data and you are disingenuous with your alternative skewed facts. Why did you use November as your start date and not January 20, 2021 when Biden took office. The Dow was 31,188 on 1/20/21. When Biden left office on 1/20/25, the Dow was 43,488. The Dow currently stands at 42,837 below when Trump took POTUS for a second time. [/quote]

On Inauguration Day in 2017 the Dow was at 19,732

On Inauguration Day in 2021 the Dow was at 31,188

During Trump’s first term the Dow rose 58%.

On Inauguration Day 2025 the Dow was at 43,488.

During Biden’s term the Dow rose 39.4%[/quote]

And very little to nothing pertaining to this market growth can be associated with anything Trump or Biden did or didn't do.[/quote]

That is not really true. Biden could have done what Trump was doing with COVID and schools would have remained closed, and downtowns would have died on the vine. Instead, he got vaccines out to the public in a massive way and the country opened back up and the economy started to roll again.  Trump could have ridden what Biden left, but instead went on with the tariff nonsense, and now with troops in the streets, [b]the markets do not like authoritarian governments [/b]and do not like leaders picking winners and losers in the marketplace, which is what Trump is doing. Think of how much higher the markets would be right now f Trump just kept his mouth shut?[/quote]

The S&P is at 6,052 right now and is up 3.5% in the last month. Markets have risen since these ICE raids because they care about the good May inflation numbers and the fact China and the US are talking more about Trump’s reaction to the protests. Literally, what are you talking about? Your opinions are literally divorced from reality.[/quote]

Well, the job numbers are down, businesses are laying off, companies are not investing b/c there is too much uncertainty and now one is buying houses, but hey, everything is great. Oh, and grocery prices didn't decrease.[/quote]

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