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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]You don't need a reason to believe or not believe.  If a person doesn't believe, then they just don't - it's not a choice.  It's just the way your brain perceives reality.  [/quote]

Ahhh, no that is decidedly NOT it.  And you don't make any other decisions on your beliefs that way - you medical beliefs, laws, guilt or innocence - you look at the facts and evidence and decide.  It's not some inherent "truth" whether someone is innocent or guilty.  There's a trial, and the jury decides, and when there is a preponderance of evidence those trials are often unanimous.

It's the same standard you apply in those cases, and in the case of religion, the same you apply to all the other gods and supernatural things you DON'T believe in.

Why not apply that same simple standard to your god?[/quote]

[b]You treat every decision in your life like a criminal trial? Are you serious?[/b][/quote]

yeah, I have to agree with this. Some people just seem to have a God "gene." They are susceptible to supernatural beliefs and I think that's normal. It goes all the way back to the beginning of humankind.  On the other hand, some people are very fact-based on everything they do, like that pp.  [/quote]

Neither the laws nor the legal system of the United States don’t have any relevance to personal decisions about religious beliefs. The legal system doesn’t exist in the slightest to prove or disprove a person’s religious choice. Pp is making no sense. [/quote]

No sorry you are wrong.

You use evidence, logic and facts to form all your beliefs.  Except for one: the religion you believe in.

[b]Name one other significant thing you believe based on the same criteria as your religion[/b].[/quote]

art, music, philosophy -- all matters of personal taste. Facts are good for the legal system, but that's about it.  Indeed, a recent example for me I made a big purchase. The facts were really against it, but I went with my heart. Happy I did.  See the college forum for example where some people say the Return on Investment for that school is awful dont do it. And others, with a different value system, say you'll get a good education there and isn't that what college is all about?  Stop being so close minded. And p.s. --mI understand you, as I tend atheist myself.
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You think your post supports your premise, but it does the exact opposite.

[quote]art, music, philosophy -- all matters of personal taste.[/quote]

If you are comparing your religion to an aesthetic, that does not say much for the foundations of a religion, does it?  You know that other people can have a different aesthetic and it is just as valid.  No religion I know of takes that position.  We are talking about belief, not opinion or taste.

[quote]Indeed, a recent example for me I made a big purchase. The facts were really against it, but I went with my heart.[/quote]

Yes, you evaluated the facts and made a decision that went against logic, and you were 100% certain that the facts were against you and bought it anyway. Are you saying you know the facts are 100% against your religion and believe it anyway?

[quote]Stop being so close minded. And p.s. --mI understand you, as I tend atheist myself[/quote]

Lol, yeah, stop being so closed minded but close your mind to facts and evidence.  Nice oxymoron.

So your post says, again and again, that you use facts in making all other decisions, and embraces open-mindedness, which is not a tenet of any religion I know.  You seem to reinforce my point very nicely, and I sincerely thank you for it.[/quote]

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