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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Childless politicians being the face of pro-choice is really bad optics. AOC is nearly 33 years old, unmarried and childless; she does not comprehend what she is fighting for. If you are pro-choice, that's fine, but you ought to seek leaders with children to fight for it and be the face of it.

[twitter]https://twitter.com/DrewHLive/status/1540359953914937349[/twitter][/quote]

Why is this an issue. Is this a another “motherhood is magical” thing? Because she can certainly comprehend that she wants to make her own choices for her life without being married with a child.

What a stupid post.

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The fact that 59% of abortion patients already have at least one child means there are plenty of pro-choice mothers to pick from.

And that’s not including the mothers like me who haven’t had abortions but became even more pro-choice once we experienced the full difficulties of pregnancy, childbirth, and parenting. My (unplanned) child is the light of my life, but I wouldn’t wish this on anyone who wasn’t willing going in. [/quote]

I was always pro-choice but became staunchly so when pregnant with my first. It was hard AF. And by the time I got accidentally pregnant with a third that was most definitely not wanted, I was busy researching my abortion options. Fortunately for me, nature intervened and I miscarried. I had to have a D&C to make sure everything was gone. But some of these sickos believe even that is a crime. Its my most fervent wish that all of these people rot in hell.[/quote]

+1. First pregnancy with husband ended in a miscarriage. I had to have a D&C which I guess would be illegal now? [/quote]

A Dand C is not an abortion dip shit. [/quote]
Yes, actually, it is. If a doctor has to assist your miscarriage, congratulations. You have had an abortion. [/quote]

Yup.

I really cannot believe how uninformed and plain stupid some of these posters are. I guess that helps explain how we got here.

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Agreed. A d+c for a miscarriage is NOT an abortion! F ing morons! [/quote]

Uh.  It is.  There are some dead women who couldn’t get them who would like a word.[/quote]

A miscarriage itself is a spontaneous abortion.  OMG I can’t believe the ignorance here![/quote]

You are the ignorant one, sweetie.

Sometimes a spontaneous miscarriage does not clear everything out. When you go into sepsis and die because a D&C is, in fact, an abortion and you couldn’t get one let us know how it goes from the great beyond![/quote]

An ABORTION is a d+c of a LIVING fetus, not a dead one. [/quote]

You absolute knob.

Merck Manual,  https://www.merckmanuals.com/professional/gynecology-and-obstetrics/abnormalities-of-pregnancy/spontaneous-abortion :

1. Sometimes it happens without a D&C, and that IS A SPONTANEOUS ABORTION, AKA MISCARRIAGE

[quote][b]Spontaneous Abortion
(Miscarriage)[/b]

By Antonette T. Dulay , MD, Main Line Health System
Last full review/revision Oct 2020

[b]Spontaneous abortion is noninduced embryonic or fetal death or passage of products of conception before 20 weeks gestation.[/b] Threatened abortion is vaginal bleeding without cervical dilation occurring during this time frame and indicating that spontaneous abortion may occur in a woman with a confirmed viable intrauterine pregnancy. Diagnosis is by clinical criteria and ultrasonography. Treatment is usually expectant observation for threatened abortion and, if spontaneous abortion has occurred or appears unavoidable, observation or uterine evacuation.
Spontaneous abortion, by definition, is death of the fetus; it may increase the risk of spontaneous abortion in subsequent pregnancies.

Fetal death and early delivery are classified as follows:

[b]Abortion: Death of the fetus or passage of products of conception (fetus and placenta) before 20 weeks gestation[/b]
Fetal demise ( stillbirth): Fetal death after 20 weeks
Preterm delivery: Passage of a live fetus between 20 weeks and 36 weeks/6 days

Abortions may be classified as follows (see table Classification of Abortion):

Early or late
Spontaneous or induced for therapeutic or elective reasons
Threatened or inevitable
Incomplete or complete
Recurrent (also called recurrent pregnancy loss)
Missed
Septic

[b]Classification of Abortion	[/b]

[u]About 20 to 30% of women with confirmed pregnancies bleed during the first 20 weeks of pregnancy; half of these women spontaneously abort. Thus, incidence of spontaneous abortion is up to about 20% in confirmed pregnancies.[/u] Incidence in all pregnancies is probably higher because some very early abortions are mistaken for a late menstrual period.[/quote]

2. D&C can remove dead or otherwise nonviable tissue, such as a retained placenta.

Cleveland Clinic, https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/21512-retained-products-of-conception

[quote][b]Are retained products of conception and a retained placenta the same thing?[/b]
Sometimes the entire placenta (also called “afterbirth”) remains in the womb after childbirth. A retained placenta can lead to hemorrhaging (bleeding), severe infection or even death.

A retained placenta most commonly happens after a vaginal delivery. But RPOC is more common when a pregnancy ends early. It may not cause problems until days, weeks or even months after the pregnancy ends.

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[b]How are retained products of conception treated?[/b]

There are several treatments for RPOC, including:

Misoprostol: You may receive this drug by mouth or through your vagina. In pregnant women, it helps to induce labor. After an early pregnancy failure or an incomplete abortion, it triggers your body to expel (force out) retained tissue.

[b]Dilation and curettage (D&C): D&C is a minor surgical procedure to remove the contents of the uterus. [/b]Your healthcare provider dilates (opens) your cervix and uses a curette (small surgical tool) or suction to remove tissue.[/quote]

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