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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote]The prolific anti-CC poster is still engaged in flurries of handwaving and deflections but has still not addressed the central issue on the floor here:

If you want to insist that Common Core is "a mess" and is "developmentally inappropriate" and "bad standards" then again, for the 457th time, HOW SPECIFICALLY SO and BY WHAT SPECIFIC CRITERIA and WHERE IS YOUR DATA AND ANALYSIS TO BACK IT UP?

All you keep doing is posting opinion and rant as chaff, which does not address the question above.

If you cannot answer the question, you are being intellectually dishonest with us.[/quote]

Okay.  I have a lot to gain by coming on here and being "intellectually dishonest".  You can believe that if you wish.  But I am not a rich person (far from it) nor is my child in a charter school that does not teach to the test.  I actually think that many "intellectuals" are the ones sending us into the toilet.  If you would listen to some "intellectually dishonest" people (as you seem to think they are), you might get a better understanding of how things actually work or don't work.  Sorry I don't have tons of "data and analysis", but relying solely on those things will leave so much of a child behind (and already is in huge numbers).  Because children are not just numbers.  Your children are lucky to be in a charter school.  You have no idea.

Oh, I do have something.  I have a voice and a vote and I intend to use those things.  Your data is not helping you anyway BTW.  It's showing what the rest of us "intellectually dishonest" people already know---lots of money spent with no impact.  Your way is not working.  Why not try something different?

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Your problem is that you don't have *ANYTHING* to base "your voice and your vote" on - or for that matter, your opinion that "it is not working" and "has had no impact" - other than some extreme disinformation and lies coming in the form of right wing talking points being spread as a funded, organized disinformation astroturf campaign by the Heartland Institute and others which have been repeated here ad nauseam, despite having been shown to have no data, substance or analysis behind them and which have been disproven over and over again.

Do you really not even understand that it's problematic that you can't actually prove any of the things you are saying?  That you are accepting these talking points on nothing but faith?  Intellectual honesty means you need to question things and look closely and carefully at the statements being made on either side, and to independently verify things before just going out and repeating them.  It's pretty obvious that you haven't done that.[/quote]

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