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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain. [/quote]

That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people. [/quote]

Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about? [/quote]

NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly. [/quote]

Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders. [/quote]

Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend. 
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A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...[/quote]

Just genes, right? Pacific Islanders have always had trending stable amounts of obesity, because "genes?" And this is just in the <50 years.
[img]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Obesity_in_the_Pacific.svg[/img][/quote]

Why are they getting so fat so fast? They're just the biggest failures on the planet at exercising personal choice? [/quote]

Changes in diet and being more sedentary. Just like obese people everywhere. 
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But why there more than anywhere else, by SO much? They have the most couches and the fewest bikes? [/quote]

Obesity is rapidly increasing everywhere. Latin America, India, China, the Middle East. Export shitty food and sedentary lifestyles (gizmos with screens don't help), and it will impact the populations.

Really, you're looking pretty ridiculous by suggesting that it's just the genes. It is, in fact, a problem of modernity. In the Pacific Islands, and everywhere.
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Who ever said it's "just the genes." There's denial in this thread that it's genes at all. Someone literally said genes explain less than 5%. Genes are a major factor in who has obesity triggered and who doesn't. [/quote]

As a person who was obese through childhood and most of my adulthood until I admitted that I needed to eat less and move more, that pp was right. [b]Genes are a very small factor for the vast majority of obese people.[/b] The fact that obesity is overwhelmingly a modern problem, confirms that - because the genes were always there.

And if I stop exercising and eat without restriction, I'll re-gain the weight. Same for 95+ percent of people the world over.
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[Citation needed]
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