Anonymous wrote:The GLP-1 drugs really are a miracle. I’m down in 4 months from 255 to 222 today. Not effortlessly but pretty close. No tracking what I eat, not limiting any food groups, no excessive exercise, just daily walks and listening to my body. Losing more weight faster than I ever did tracking calories and doing intense workouts every day.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.

That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.

Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?

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Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.

Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.

Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.

A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...

Just genes, right? Pacific Islanders have always had trending stable amounts of obesity, because "genes?" And this is just in the <50 years.

Why are they getting so fat so fast? They're just the biggest failures on the planet at exercising personal choice?

Changes in diet and being more sedentary. Just like obese people everywhere.

But why there more than anywhere else, by SO much? They have the most couches and the fewest bikes?

Obesity is rapidly increasing everywhere. Latin America, India, China, the Middle East. Export shitty food and sedentary lifestyles (gizmos with screens don't help), and it will impact the populations.

Really, you're looking pretty ridiculous by suggesting that it's just the genes. It is, in fact, a problem of modernity. In the Pacific Islands, and everywhere.

Who ever said it's "just the genes." There's denial in this thread that it's genes at all. Someone literally said genes explain less than 5%. Genes are a major factor in who has obesity triggered and who doesn't.

As a person who was obese through childhood and most of my adulthood until I admitted that I needed to eat less and move more, that pp was right. Genes are a very small factor for the vast majority of obese people. The fact that obesity is overwhelmingly a modern problem, confirms that - because the genes were always there.

And if I stop exercising and eat without restriction, I'll re-gain the weight. Same for 95+ percent of people the world over.

[Citation needed]

See the history of human beings.

Be more specific. What evidence are you citing to from history, for your assertion that genes are a "very small factor" in obesity?

What genetic switch suddenly turned on in the last 50 or so years, that nobody has been able to undo through diet and exercise? Look, you're in denial. So are many obese people. I would have made your same comments 10 years ago. Good luck to you. I wish you health and self reflection. Good luck.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.

That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.

Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?

NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.

Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.

Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.

A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...

Just genes, right? Pacific Islanders have always had trending stable amounts of obesity, because "genes?" And this is just in the <50 years.

Why are they getting so fat so fast? They're just the biggest failures on the planet at exercising personal choice?

Changes in diet and being more sedentary. Just like obese people everywhere.

But why there more than anywhere else, by SO much? They have the most couches and the fewest bikes?

Obesity is rapidly increasing everywhere. Latin America, India, China, the Middle East. Export shitty food and sedentary lifestyles (gizmos with screens don't help), and it will impact the populations.

Really, you're looking pretty ridiculous by suggesting that it's just the genes. It is, in fact, a problem of modernity. In the Pacific Islands, and everywhere.

Who ever said it's "just the genes." There's denial in this thread that it's genes at all. Someone literally said genes explain less than 5%. Genes are a major factor in who has obesity triggered and who doesn't.

As a person who was obese through childhood and most of my adulthood until I admitted that I needed to eat less and move more, that pp was right. Genes are a very small factor for the vast majority of obese people. The fact that obesity is overwhelmingly a modern problem, confirms that - because the genes were always there.

And if I stop exercising and eat without restriction, I'll re-gain the weight. Same for 95+ percent of people the world over.

[Citation needed]

See the history of human beings.

Be more specific. What evidence are you citing to from history, for your assertion that genes are a "very small factor" in obesity?

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.

That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.

Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?

NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.

Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.

Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.

A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...

Just genes, right? Pacific Islanders have always had trending stable amounts of obesity, because "genes?" And this is just in the <50 years.

Why are they getting so fat so fast? They're just the biggest failures on the planet at exercising personal choice?

Changes in diet and being more sedentary. Just like obese people everywhere.

But why there more than anywhere else, by SO much? They have the most couches and the fewest bikes?

Obesity is rapidly increasing everywhere. Latin America, India, China, the Middle East. Export shitty food and sedentary lifestyles (gizmos with screens don't help), and it will impact the populations.

Really, you're looking pretty ridiculous by suggesting that it's just the genes. It is, in fact, a problem of modernity. In the Pacific Islands, and everywhere.

Who ever said it's "just the genes." There's denial in this thread that it's genes at all. Someone literally said genes explain less than 5%. Genes are a major factor in who has obesity triggered and who doesn't.

As a person who was obese through childhood and most of my adulthood until I admitted that I needed to eat less and move more, that pp was right. Genes are a very small factor for the vast majority of obese people. The fact that obesity is overwhelmingly a modern problem, confirms that - because the genes were always there.

And if I stop exercising and eat without restriction, I'll re-gain the weight. Same for 95+ percent of people the world over.

[Citation needed]

See the history of human beings.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.

That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.

Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?

NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.

Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.

Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.

A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...

Just genes, right? Pacific Islanders have always had trending stable amounts of obesity, because "genes?" And this is just in the <50 years.

Why are they getting so fat so fast? They're just the biggest failures on the planet at exercising personal choice?

Changes in diet and being more sedentary. Just like obese people everywhere.

But why there more than anywhere else, by SO much? They have the most couches and the fewest bikes?

Obesity is rapidly increasing everywhere. Latin America, India, China, the Middle East. Export shitty food and sedentary lifestyles (gizmos with screens don't help), and it will impact the populations.

Really, you're looking pretty ridiculous by suggesting that it's just the genes. It is, in fact, a problem of modernity. In the Pacific Islands, and everywhere.

Who ever said it's "just the genes." There's denial in this thread that it's genes at all. Someone literally said genes explain less than 5%. Genes are a major factor in who has obesity triggered and who doesn't.

As a person who was obese through childhood and most of my adulthood until I admitted that I needed to eat less and move more, that pp was right. Genes are a very small factor for the vast majority of obese people. The fact that obesity is overwhelmingly a modern problem, confirms that - because the genes were always there.

And if I stop exercising and eat without restriction, I'll re-gain the weight. Same for 95+ percent of people the world over.

[Citation needed]

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.

That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.

Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?

NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.

Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.

Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.

A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...

Just genes, right? Pacific Islanders have always had trending stable amounts of obesity, because "genes?" And this is just in the <50 years.

Why are they getting so fat so fast? They're just the biggest failures on the planet at exercising personal choice?

Changes in diet and being more sedentary. Just like obese people everywhere.

But why there more than anywhere else, by SO much? They have the most couches and the fewest bikes?

Obesity is rapidly increasing everywhere. Latin America, India, China, the Middle East. Export shitty food and sedentary lifestyles (gizmos with screens don't help), and it will impact the populations.

Really, you're looking pretty ridiculous by suggesting that it's just the genes. It is, in fact, a problem of modernity. In the Pacific Islands, and everywhere.

Who ever said it's "just the genes." There's denial in this thread that it's genes at all. Someone literally said genes explain less than 5%. Genes are a major factor in who has obesity triggered and who doesn't.

As a person who was obese through childhood and most of my adulthood until I admitted that I needed to eat less and move more, that pp was right. Genes are a very small factor for the vast majority of obese people. The fact that obesity is overwhelmingly a modern problem, confirms that - because the genes were always there.

And if I stop exercising and eat without restriction, I'll re-gain the weight. Same for 95+ percent of people the world over.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.

That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.

Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?

NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.

Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.

Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.

A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...

Just genes, right? Pacific Islanders have always had trending stable amounts of obesity, because "genes?" And this is just in the <50 years.

Why are they getting so fat so fast? They're just the biggest failures on the planet at exercising personal choice?

Changes in diet and being more sedentary. Just like obese people everywhere.

But why there more than anywhere else, by SO much? They have the most couches and the fewest bikes?

Obesity is rapidly increasing everywhere. Latin America, India, China, the Middle East. Export shitty food and sedentary lifestyles (gizmos with screens don't help), and it will impact the populations.

Really, you're looking pretty ridiculous by suggesting that it's just the genes. It is, in fact, a problem of modernity. In the Pacific Islands, and everywhere.

Who ever said it's "just the genes." There's denial in this thread that it's genes at all. Someone literally said genes explain less than 5%. Genes are a major factor in who has obesity triggered and who doesn't.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.

That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.

Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?

NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.

Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.

Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.

A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...

Just genes, right? Pacific Islanders have always had trending stable amounts of obesity, because "genes?" And this is just in the <50 years.

Why are they getting so fat so fast? They're just the biggest failures on the planet at exercising personal choice?

Changes in diet and being more sedentary. Just like obese people everywhere.

But why there more than anywhere else, by SO much? They have the most couches and the fewest bikes?

Obesity is rapidly increasing everywhere. Latin America, India, China, the Middle East. Export shitty food and sedentary lifestyles (gizmos with screens don't help), and it will impact the populations.

Really, you're looking pretty ridiculous by suggesting that it's just the genes. It is, in fact, a problem of modernity. In the Pacific Islands, and everywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.

That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.

Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?

NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.

Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.

Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.

A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...

Just genes, right? Pacific Islanders have always had trending stable amounts of obesity, because "genes?" And this is just in the <50 years.

Why are they getting so fat so fast? They're just the biggest failures on the planet at exercising personal choice?

Changes in diet and being more sedentary. Just like obese people everywhere.

But why there more than anywhere else, by SO much? They have the most couches and the fewest bikes?

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.

That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.

Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?

NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.

Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.

Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.

A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...

Just genes, right? Pacific Islanders have always had trending stable amounts of obesity, because "genes?" And this is just in the <50 years.

Why are they getting so fat so fast? They're just the biggest failures on the planet at exercising personal choice?

Changes in diet and being more sedentary. Just like obese people everywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:So now the malice crowd has resorted to claiming that their shaming prevents obesity. 3/4 of Americans are overweight, and 40% are obese.

Seems unbelievable to me. Although perhaps the shame keeps me from reaching the obese category. I always diet when I creep up and return to a lower number (overweight category). Or maybe it’s genetics because my mother does the same thing. We both lose weight easily when we track, just not enough and we can’t maintain.

That's not genetic. You don't have a genetic disease, you have learned behaviors that you picked up directly from your mother and you copy her disordered eating. That is your normal. As it is for many, many people.

Obesity is, in fact, a genetic disease, what are you talking about?

NP.

Amazing how this genetic predisposition only seems to affect Americans, overwhelmingly.

Ignorance. Genetic markers, and resulting obesity, are most prevalent among Pacific Islanders.

Yes, there are some genetic markers in some pacific islanders that may impact how nutrients are extracted from food. But obesity rates in the PI are overwhelmingly correlated to massive changes in imports and diet in the 20th century - it's a problem of modernity. You want to talk ignorance? Look inwards, friend.

A problem of modernity? So you mean Pacific Islanders are just especially unable to resist chips? They are just especially lazy? Just especially unable to understand they should exercise more? Especially unable to understand WHO guidelines? Explain what you mean...

Meaning, the problem of modernity is common in many places - see the Middle East. Parts of Latin America. Increase consumption of calorie dense foods, you're going to gain weight. These populations didn't have an obesity crisis 100+ years ago.

I find this to be an incredibly odd comment. The traditional home made foods of my in-laws, from one of the skinniest countries on the planet, are incredibly calorie-dense. Think oil-soaked rice with small amounts of fatty meats as the go-to dinner. I don't think density is the change here. Salt, sugar, shelf-stable, sure. But not density.

Or *quantity* of calorie dense foods. Eat more than you burn overall, you will gain weight. This is fact.