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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I can understand the sentence. It was basically a hookup at a frat party gone wrong. It doesn't make sense to send one party to prison for years.. There's no way to know when she became unconscious, but it was probably later rather than sooner.[/quote]

I think that the fact that she was totally unconscious when they found her and that he ran away (i.e., knew he was doing something wrong) when the grad students showed up pushes this into clear rape territory.

However, I do think the law can operate unfairly in cases where both parties were blackout drunk.  If a woman appeared to be consenting but was blackout drunk, it is legally rape because she was too drunk to consent.  But the law expects the blackout drunk man to realize that her consent isn't real and to be responsible for his actions while equally as drunk.  I'm not saying being drunk should be an excuse for rape, but there is something inconsistent about saying that if a woman is blackout drunk and consents to sex it is actually rape, but treating the man the same way regardless of whether he was blackout drunk or not.  I don't know what the answer is, but I do think there is a gray area there.

However, as I said, I think it was pretty black-and-white in the Stanford case, at least based on what I've read about it.[/quote]

I do think the law can be challenging with both parties are blackout drunk, but that wasn't the case here, as you say.  So it's pretty insulting to come up with all of these scenarios in which he might not have been at fault.  He was.  He is going to jail, and not for long enough.  [/quote]

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