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You have yet to point to any passage that convincingly says that God says homosexuality is a sin. [/quote]
Well, unless you have a direct line to God, we typically believe what the prophets and Jesus state in the Bible is what God is saying.

Leviticus 18:22: "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable."

Your argument is weird.  Is there a passage in the Bible that explicitly prohibits pedophilia?  Or let's look at slavery.  Would Jesus condone slavery since there is a passage in the Bible that states: "Slaves obey your masters"?

My DC sometimes kicks the back of my chair in the car.  I tell DC to stop.  Then a few seconds later I feel pounding again.  I say to DC, "I told you to stop".  DC says, "But, I wasn't kicking it.  I was punching it".  This is the type of argument you are using, that you would only consider what Jesus explicitly states as the truth, and not the spirit of what he is saying.  This is how my 8 yr old reasons.[/quote]

Not the PP, but P.S. comparing being gay to pedophilia (and slavery!) is super homophobic. If the homophobia label wasn't warranted before (it was), it's fair game now. I'm sure even your 8-year-old could see the distinctions. [/quote]

Not even close.  The logic the PP or you were using is that if Christ didn't explicitly state that homosexuality is a sin, then it must not be.  Just applying that same logic to other sins that were not explicitly address by Christ.[/quote]

No, you're the one with the bizarre logic. You're saying, it's true that Jesus never mentioned homosexuality. But you think you know for sure--for sure!-- that God disapproves. Because you have a direct pipeline to God? Or because you just "know" this somehow. With no other explanation. And your personal and cultural biases have nothing to do with it. Therefore, we should all read "homosexuality is bad" into the gospels anyway.

Truly a WTF moment.

Whatever my faults, at least I don't claim to speak for God when interpreting passages.

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Leviticus is pretty clear on this issue. I'm not sure what the debate about what Jesus thinks is all about. Jesus's arrival in the new testament washed our sins outlined in the old testament away. [/quote]

So back to page 1 of this thread. Leviticus tells you not to eat shellfish or wear mixed fibers. But you do both, right? Why? Because Jesus did away with the types of rules that are in Leviticus. Why people point to this one passage in Leviticus and feel free to ignore all the rest is beyond me.[/quote]

Who is ignoring the rest? Someone asked about a passage directly on homosexuality. They got it.  [b]Just b/c Jesus's death washes away the sins of the old testament doesn't mean he condones them. [/b][b]It doesn't give believers a free pass to sin as they want. It just means we are not condemned by them.[/b][/quote]

+1  Very well stated.

Do people understand why the Jews were given these laws in Leviticus?  Do we need a crash course Bible study here?[/quote]

[b]Clearly we need a crash course on Jesus' attitudes towards Leviticus.[/b] You keep citing it, and citing it very selectively no less, but you've stripped the entire Christian overlay from it. Newsflash: you're not Jewish, at least according to your statements here. Why don't you take a break and [b]study the changes Jesus made in the faith[/b] and then come back and argue like an informed person.

Also a crash course in logic, i.e. how you can't insert your own belief system into a vacuum and call it God's will. Yikes! You people scare me.[/quote]

yes, I think this is a good idea.  Jesus made no change in the faith. He made that clear.

Matthew 5:17:
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."

Newsflash:  Christians still read the OT because it's in the Bible.  I would be wary of any Christian church that skips the OT entirely. 
And another newsflash:  Everyone here has their own belief system.[/quote]

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