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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]From the Forbes article when having interviewed hiring executives in light of AI and ever changing technology “That Ivy League-wariness persists, with 37% of respondents this year saying they are less likely to hire Ivy League grads than they were five years ago, and only 6% saying they’re more likely to do so. Those numbers are reversed for public universities, with 42% saying they’re more likely to hire these grads and just 6% less likely to do so.” Wow Times are a changing. [/quote] I have heard this anecdotally from hiring directors in my network too. Something about an entitled attitude that they're turning off on. [/quote] For those of us with kids at both a New Ivy and a real Ivy, we know it isn’t true. Just that the types of opportunities are different. At the Ivy you don’t see the F500 (other than tech and finance) companies much and almost no kid will show interest. You will see far more boutique firms recruiting, usually because an alum started it and they recruit heavily from their undergrad. You also have the start-up groups making many trips to the Ivy campus encouraging kids to start companies. The New Ivy has some of the above but much smaller, but more traditional corporate employers and more regional employers. Definitely has more companies representing the group that responded to this Forbes survey. Schools are great fits for each of the kids attending, so no complaints.[/quote] How do you know it isn't true? I was sharing my actual experience of talking to real people who are hiring partners in their relative fields. How can you as a parent of a random ivy league college kid know that what my friends have told me about their actual thoughts about hiring ivy kids are wrong? You weren't in the room when I had these real conversations. This is what they said behind closed doors to me without you in the room. I did characterize it as my information as anecdotal (based on personal accounts told to me, an involved survey or research study), but that doesn't make it true. I went to an ivy myself, as did at least one of the hiring partners who I referenced having actual conversations about this with. [/quote] You were responding to a post that characterized hiring for all Ivy graduates across all industries. Nobody is saying your anecdote isn't true for your one specific instance, but those of us with kids at both types of schools know that neither is starved for opportunity. They are just different types of opportunity with call it 65% overlap.[/quote]
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