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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hey, here are some other studies (actual studies, not screenshots from X):

High School GPAs and ACT Scores as Predictors of College Completion: Examining Assumptions About Consistency Across High Schools: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.3102/0013189X20902110

Contextualized High School Performance: Evidence to Inform Equitable Holistic, Test-Optional, and Test-Free Admissions Policies https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/23328584231197413

Is the Sky Falling? Grade Inflation and the Signaling Power of Grades
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.3102/0013189X13481382

Predicting College Success
How Do Different High School Assessments Measure Up?
https://edpolicyinca.org/publications/predicting-college-success-how-do-different-high-school-assessments-measure-2019[/quote]

All of these fail to take account for the restricted range problem.  A problem that went away during the test optional covid era when we could see the effect of admitting students with lower test scores on a regular basis.  All of this is true at highly selective colleges and less true at less selective colleges.  [/quote]

That’s an excellent point.  With top schools the SAT scores were so high that there was very little difference and thus there would be little effect of SAT scores on student outcomes.  UT Austin did an analysis of TO vs non-TO students and found that TO students had SAT scores.  According to UT’s own analysis, students who submitted test scores during the test-optional period tended to perform better academically with higher GPA and lower risk of poor grades compared to those who didn’t submit scores, even after controlling for high school grades and class rank. The difference in GPA was .86; almost a full letter grade.[/quote]
UT is a massive state school that accepts students with 1200 SATs as long as they are top of their class. It’s nothing like the top colleges.[/quote]

Well, if the top colleges are accepting TO kids at the top of their class that scored 1200 on the SAT,  that seems exactly the same.  [/quote]

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