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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why do they even need the data? They should get rid of it all. Though as someone else said, if you aren't smart enough to drop it in your essay ("As president of my school's black students association..."), you aren't smart enough to go to the school.[/quote] Exactly! My kids are Black and they will work it all day long. [/quote] My kids cited their background/ culture in essays from an inspirational standpoint. That's allowed. However, they had 4.0+ GPAs and 1500+ scores too. The elites schools will get the best URMs. Ignorant people think just saying you're black in an essay will get you into Harvard.[/quote] There's less than 1000 black students with a 1500 SAT score. I don't think people think these are the kids that don't belong at top schools. But a black student with a scooter in the 1300s probably shouldn't be there. [/quote] Roughly 1100 black students scored 1500+ in 2005. In 2005 less than 50% of all high school students took the SAT. In 2024 it was around 75%. I couldn't find actual data for 2024 but I suspect that now, 20 years later, there are many, many more than 1000. For what it is worth my cousin spent THOUSANDS on SAT prep for her daughter. She got a 1500. But that was 100% prep. The girl dropped out of school first year. SAT is just one test from one day in their life. It is not the whole story. Finally - schools haven't seen the race data for two years. If you see black kids accepted to top schools maybe it is because they are strong students with the stats to prove it[/quote]
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