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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I never liked Trump, but I also very much dislike the Democrats. It'd be too strong to say I was rooting for Trump or that I thought he'd to a good job, but I thought there was a *chance* he'd do a good job, and, for the sake of the country, I was really hoping he would. I didn't vote for him, but I also never seriously considered voting for Harris or Biden. I thought Trump's first term was at moments scary but [b]overall pretty good.[/b]

With the wind-up, let me say: geez Louise this is going shittily. [/quote]

Overall pretty good? 
I don’t see how anyone could arrive at that conclusion. His first term was an embarrassment. He was impeached. He incited a riot on the Capital to prevent transition to new government.

History books will NOT speak positively about his first term.

OP, I’m curious what it was that finally led you to think this term is not going well.

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OP here. I agree with you about Jan. 6; I considered that alone totally disqualifying. [b]I was excluding that when I said his first term was pretty good. I get that that's sort of a huge thing to exclude,[/b] but I'm just doing it for sake of talking about the other stuff.

As for the rest, I thought the economy was a lot better than anyone would have assumed. (In fairness, some of that is attributable to the low expectations people had for him, not unreasonably.) I also gave him some credit for keeping us out of wars and foreign policy adventurism more generally. I thought his judicial picks were mainstream, serious people who seem respected. I also thought, in his own way, he was effective at revealing areas where our system was insufficiently democratically accountable, and I think it's a net benefit that people are now a little more clear-eyed about the role that consensus and orthodoxy in elite circles affects our national policy in ways that the average voter might feel uncomfortable with.

To be clear, I never liked the guy, and there are a million reasons I never would have voted for him-- his philandering, racism, and meanspiritedness among them.[/quote]

But why exclude that? It bewilders me the number of people who were willing to look the other way.

It’s like people have lost their sense of basic principles.

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