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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I feel for people, but I do think during Covid people got used to WFH/ being able to run to Target/go for walks/pick up kids and check emails a few times, etc. Be grateful for a job.  Many people have been RTO since 2021/2022!

When I was a child my single mom (dad died) had cancer.  She went to work and also had doctors appointments, surgery, chemo, etc.  I still remember her picking me up from after school at the very end with lit her colostomy bag and kids also being picked up would make fun of her.  She didn't complain, was a great and present mom, and went into an office and worked.  She ended up dying and we moved in with an aunt who was/never got not married, who went into an office everyday and some weekends.

I learned a lot as kid, could do my own laundry, homework, etc, and was never babied! I see cousins who have parents who basically do/did everything for them.  One lives at home at age 29 and refuses to work, two others had their mom write many papers in HS and college for them, and many have their parents pay for their expensive life after they graduated college.

My aunt hired high school babysitters and a neighbor who was a SAHM with similar aged kids to watch us after school and in the summer since camps were too expensive.  My grandparents also took us for a couple weeks in the summer.

No one is forcing you to stay at your job.  If you don't like RTO then apply elsewhere.  It will be hard with so many people out of work, but if you don't like what is required as an employee then leave.

I feel for the people with real things that need to be protected.  Being upset you have a 2 hour commute stinks but pushing for an accomodation takes time away from someone who actually needs one.

I did not vote for this, but reading posts on here make me realize so many people are out of touch.

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30-40 years ago, far fewer people could even do their jobs from home. There was no internet. People were using faxes. For someone to work from home would have required far more resources and accommodation on the employer side, and most jobs just wouldn’t be possible. If someone had physical limitations preventing them from working in person, they likely were unable to work at all.

Remote work makes it possible for many disabled people to work who might otherwise be unable to.[/quote]

That’s true.  But [b]the majority of people now putting in for RAs to continue permanent or extensive telework somehow managed to come into the office pre pandemic.[/b]

The people you are referring to are not the ones all of a sudden seeking accommodations.[/quote]

I’d be very interested in your source for this claim.

In my agency, there has been substantial turnover during the pandemic. In my branch, we were all hired on a fully remote basis—none of us ever “managed to come into the office.” Quite a few of us are disabled people who selected these roles because they made it possible for us to do good work without requiring special “accommodations.”

Our productivity—as measured by the number, quality and accuracy of the basic unit of our citizen-facing work—is closely tracked, and it also rose over this interval.

I was on an 800-person Teams presentation about RAs recently, and many of the employees asking questions were people who—unlike those directly in my branch—have had remote work as an accommodation since long before the pandemic. The agency had been planning to make these folks, who have permanent disabling conditions and have been productively working remotely, “recertify” their need for accommodation (which is a violation of the standing EEOC guidance on when this can happen) and recently walked that back, I think because the career staff made a persuasive enough case that this paperwork burden was absurd (in addition to being illegal).

The federal government has been a leading employers of people with disabilities since the Rehabilitation Act of 1973. So there probably are substantially more of us in the federal workplace—historically an innovator in telework—than the law of averages would dictate.

Please do not assume that your casual flinging around of concepts like “majority” is somehow canonical. Or: produce receipts.[/quote]

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