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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Anybody looking at these numbers for more than 10 min with a critical thinking hat on should know these are just the number of SS accounts currently active. But Elon misrepresents this as the number of people in each age bracket who are currently receiving payments, so everyone in the comments and even Faux News is OMG there's massive fraud!

However, OIG already did a report on this several years ago in which [b]they concluded the cost associated with marking the dead people as dead was cost prohibitive[/b] as only a few age 100+ were actually receiving any benefits. The people in question either died decades ago and were not reported, or had been issued multiple SS numbers and only one was marked as deceased.

https://oig.ssa.gov/assets/uploads/a-06-21-51022.pdf[/quote]Wait, what? The cost of correcting a DATA TABLE is 'cost prohibitive'? What kind of Rube Goldberg machine are they running over there!

I'm beginning to understand the other thing Musk tweeted:

"The logic flow diagram for the Social Security system looks INSANE. No one person actually knows how it works. The payment files that move between Social Security and Treasury have significant inconsistencies that are not reconciled. It’s wild," Musk declared in a post on X.
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I don't work there but my impression from the OIG report was that people would have to go in individually to each file to mark someone dead. That pulls that person off other projects and costs money to pay them. Like others have said, Elon should probably take a moment to learn how the system operates before declaring mass fraud. [/quote]

This. It isn't worth the time to make the fix because it doesn't impact the operations of the systems. At some point currently or in the future, the systems will be upgraded from the COBAL environment to something newer, so why not use the regular federal procurement process to guide the requirements and implementation?[/quote]

A terrible excuse![/quote]

Why? Do you want to pay people at a rate of $150 an hour to delete/update individual tables for data that otherwise has zero impact on the integrity of the system? If the goal is to save money, then why have that as an expenditure?[/quote]

$150?! Talk about overpaid! [/quote]

Ehh.  I’m a 13/10 in the DMV and end o up on a lot of details like this because I’ve been with SSA long time and 76er stand the systems. I earn just under $157, which is $76 and hour. But because I am on high priority special projects, I have a lot of overtime offered at $113 an hour. Add in my pension, healthcare, TSP match, FICA match etc and it’s probably close.

And yes, it takes woolen with knowledge and not just Big Balls to accurately do a project like this. [/quote]

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