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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]re the Big 3 /State school debate..Our Big 3 college counselor admitted to us that this year was really bad for us at Michigan and Wisconsin (and other big state schools) partially due to the common app and the deluge of applications , grad deflation and "a changing landscape".  We did not have a ton of kids get into some of the popular state schools. Case in point a kid at our school got into an Ivy and was rejected at Michigan and Wisconsin. That's just one anecdote but there were a lot of similar examples.

I think the Big 3 are arrogant to cling to the assumption that the schools ALL know how "rigorous" they are. Also, it was a huge mistake to get rid of AP's. I think colleges do not have the time or energy to parse out the difference between upper level classes at Sidwell or Gds vs AP English at Wilson. This is a mistake that our kids are paying for in this new landscape.[/quote]

I won't argue against any of your points, however, I think there are some additional components to the new landscape that play a part.

First, I think there a pushback on children of privilege having a leg up in education and in admissions. It has become more the forefront in recent years that long term parental educational investments in their children are a huge advantage and coming from a Big 3 amplifies that. Of course, colleges still want to please legacy and VIPs - but the non-URM/non-LGBTQ kids at Big 3 schools saw a huge shift in ED/EA/RD outcomes in 2023 compared to 2022. Schools like Tulane (who were huge in the practice of taking a huge number via ED applicants with $$) explicitly came out and said in ED1 that they were shifting gears (too bad they didn't tell applicants before they chose to ED1 at Tulane!!).

I think that in the "big picture", this is a positive shift, but it's not so great to be in the mix right as this shift is happening.

I also think that recent test-optional shifts as a result COVID, that led to huge jumps in applications and a resulting "ratchet-down a level" in expectations of where a Big 3 may get admitted, has led to a big jump in applications to places like Wisconsin that would not have normally seen as many Big 3 kids.  Maybe they are less familiar and are still learning about these schools (maybe they don't have resources or desire to do so).  Or maybe the higher GPA kids (who now saw a school like WI as a target) that applied in the past, didn't enroll and WI hasn't adjusted yet.

Things are very much in flux....hope it settles down for the 2024 folks.[/quote]

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